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It's not first day Nintendo looks stupid when they come to decisions about roster expansion, especially the female characters. I understand Peachette is a better version of Pink Gold Peach when it comes to model recycling, but killing appearances of Birdo and Dixie just seems unwise. Especially...

I mean, I know Toadette is the new god of the Mario franchise, but I don't feel Toadsworth is put in the best use as a pure supporting character. I don't expect him to be a player outside baseball games, but it feels like he is not even anything else now. In recent rpgs, spinoffs or mainline...

Remember Sprixie Princesses? Creating characters just to follow certain pattern with no meaningful purpose is just a waste of time, especially when we know Mario main cast is very saturated for now and it would be more meaningful to spend time on existed characters that lack back story...

"No, not another ordinary swordman!!" This is a typical retarded opinion how some of the Smash fans don't like the next character being from the same category of game franchise that already exists in Smash bros game lineup. So, what if Nintendo try to focus on the game genres that haven't been...

Oh wait > Reggie: Characters you will not expect in Smash will be the DLC I respect the result but I feel Reggie pretty much eats his words.

I don't really put Banjo in my wishlist, but am honestly happy for his inclusion Considering his chance has been really obscure since Microsoft so far has not been donig more plans for Banjo series. (yes, while I'm happy with Banjo in Smash, the fact Banjo has not been receiving major spotlights...

I'm not sure if deconfirming Daisy and Waluigi by giving colorful Luigis coplay online is a good news. I understand Gooigi's reason to exist, but still.

To shorten the whole canon topic (sorry not able to follow up), the biggest problem is that not everyone can buy every single RPG disk, and they're mostly indepedent in each title. Mario series is targeted at all ages, opposite to Metroid. Such as, they don't want a kid to buy the newest Paper...

Functionally that can be an opinion, just like Nabbit's role pretty much could had been for Waluigi. But I wouldn't reject new characters since a franchise needs to open room for more possibility, and new characters are part of that.

While Nintendo seems to slightly changes and try to push abit more characters these days, I still think likely they would stay in their comfort zone that allows multi playable characters in Super Mario bros titles & Mario the sole player in featured 3D titles. For story I don't think they would...

Like said Olympics is not like an occasion for introducing entirely new playable character, it's almost same as plant piranha in Smash bros. Unless certain case like King KRool and Pauline who were rarely seen in sport games but are arguably major enough to be here. Just making Vector match...

Main reason I don't care too much probably is that the Olympics series roster strangely insists on not doing big changes. The fact some characters have been just referees or subject exclusives for more than a decade really displease their fans.

Well for Toad, by the words you mean he would just be fine as Peach's move, so this would not be a good example. Overall I understand your point that we cannot really judge plant piranha as a character as significant as others in this game. In my opinion, especially considering he is a free DLC...

I kinda thought this topic is too trivial to be own thread and wanted to post in a general opinion thread, but still decides to post here and see how you guys think. Of course this topic is related to Plant Piranha, the very first Mario fighter in smash bros as a very generic species, even not...

I guess this is not a very popular opinion as well: I don't like Daisy's look. :daisy: No offense, I like Daisy's character and personality of course. But I can relate to some of her haters opinion: she, in early time, was pretty much just Peach's 2P color skin. Despite her look gets more...

Duh, I thought I checked the first page and saw a new topic. I don't think I went back to the first page since this board was built earlier. Yeah I forgot about the plushie. It actually makes sense that all babies, even if we haven't seen Young Gadd, Baby Pauline, Baby Funky etc, may all be...

Late reply but this. The defect could work in many ways: 1) In character roster the list order could be messed up, as the sidekick/echo is listed above the protagonist. 2) In future Smash title, an echo/sidecick may stay even if the protagonist of his/her franchise has been wiped out, which may...

For older cast I think it's Wario. The way how they copied plumber characters just to be rivals and fillers for sport games is kinda not very positive, but I like how his potential and personality go in his own series now. As for recent character I think Nabbit is also good potential as a small...

Repeat why Mario fans want Waluigi to Smash. I remember replying to such topic long time ago, just we're not supposed to forget the fact that babies are references to the Yoshi series, and that series should be the one to take care of this suggestion. If you‘re specifically counting Daisy’s...

To me none of those for SM franchise sounds making good sense, considering both Mario's overrepresentation and their lack of acknowledgement comparing to other unpresented Mario-verse heroes/villains. If it comes true, it's less about acceptance but just more about appealing their huge fanbase...

As said, WL is now not really a welcomed suggestion, even it's hard to insert Wario in any other SM title again. for the sake of character/franchise balance If just the game but not Wario himself, the likely proposal I can relate to is giving a Waluigi Land, which may be his redemption and...

Like said it previous thread, it's difficult to have Wario play major role outside Warioware for now unless Nintendo manages to integrate these titles into one franchise for him. Well, in a realistic view, not likely Nintendo would do another regular SM title aside from NSMB and 3DLand. Just...

I just say in the general aspects of balancing the Mario main cast, the only sole character that needs bigger screen time in mainstream game is Waluigi, whom I don't mind to see being (anti)hero or villain in SM games. Comparing to him, Wario has got enough weight in past mainstream games. It...

Well more exactly speaking, the fact that Nintendo never tried to add main characters aside from Luigi, Peach and Bowser to Mario RPGs, is annoying. I don't hate the partners, just next time Toad and Birdo should have the slots instead of always supporting outside the team. Aside from that it...

The simplest way for extention is bringing it to Mario vs DK titles where Pauline is the featured character, if Nintendo acknowledge it as part of the mainstream canon since the arcade era, It would be nice to have New Donk City as background for most city-related scenes, since we technically...

Nabbit kinda bothered me at first. He began as a prankster and made the shortest time to become a playable SM character, which is super OP that even Rosalina had to took two Galaxy games and sort time to be a SM player. I cannot say I'm a loyal Waluigi fan but this could really have been his...

If so do you expect Peachette come over again?

Personally I would like it to happen in some other situations: Captain Toad titles and certain RPGs. But in most times when Toadette is together with Mario and the others, she doesn't really need a human form. It's more a stunt for attention The whole thing is relatively bizzard when Nintendo...

Viewing the whole thread and I'm not sure if anyone mentioned Geno and Waluigi. This game seems to be the very last life rope for them to be confirmed as Super Mario canon to get into Smash bros. What I see is Nintendo's growing preference for Toadette (despite she does deserve to be in SMB) and...

Retricted in the Party canon or not, the main problem of Koopa Kids was their obscure role, neither as actually minor as koopas or goombas or as specifically important as the Koopalings, Nintendo don't really need to insert another "middle class" in Boswer's troop. The saying of them being...

Geese I forgot that. :'( I wouldn't mind another Wario girl come in, tho. Nice :'( I wonder if this is a call for enough Mario reps with Daisy and KingKRool.

Not too confident in Dixie announced in E3 since two reps of same franchise in the same time rarely happens. Maybe next time, tho. Remind me we're not getting many new girls (not counting echo/skine). If not Dixie hope we'll have Mona or Ashley.

Just in general talking about Birdo's current status in Mario series, she seems to go away from her origin as a villainess but now has not been in Super Mario titles for a long time. She would be a nice alternative of Yoshi in both his game or in Super Mario titles as an assistant IMO. The fact...

While I am indeed pleased by Rool's entry, what fans have been concerned is his absence in the two DKC Return games so far. If Nintendo recognize his status as a big boss, hope that he can return in the next DKC title or maybe a new entry to Mario Kart 9 as well. Oh I do feel abit sad it's not...

Depends if the sequels could revive any of the deceased bosses, or future creations would not insist on the exactly same canon. Well hopefully Antasma can revive and have his revenge in a new M&L title as well. The story ot Paper Mario Wii always has one of my highest ratings, despite the game...

The standard of time is to assume that newer faces have better chance to return soon than the retro ones. We can still be optimistic about them. Also add that Mario&Luigi series has a more continuous story for past characters to return... hope so? Characters such as Perry, Starlow, Cappy are...

Okay, I see there have been many similiar topics that begin with "underrated characters" in the thread titles. For this one I want the topic to focus those characters who are officially "minor" (since some might say Daisy or Waluigi based on different definitions). They need to meet the...

I hate to mention but that's how 3D World killed fans' mood. Fortunately Super Mario Run at least give some light to Daisy so hope that she will redeem in the next Super Mario multiplayer title for Switch. As long as Wario is featured in Warioware games, I wouldn't care too much about Wario...

> Toad already appears in Peach's move > I believe Nintendo needs to add another characters that do not appear at all rather than adding Toad. I don't think Toad is that underrated by Nintendo. Anyway, it's vague to guess since they could add Captain Toad who's specifically identifiable from...

Reminds me there's still no name titled for this new girl while the rest has the name mark.

We had FF jobs in Sport Mix and DQ heroes from Fortune Street, these games are from Square Enix and they obviously treat these games as a collaboration. Second being Mario Kart GP the arcade version, the insertion of BANDAI Namco characters were also based on their hardware supports and...

Not sure it it's for real, but the fact about relevance with the Mario franchise is indeed an issue after all. It's not being mean to a specific RPG character, but to be fair other Nintendo's own PRG characters like the Paper partners are in the same situation for not obtaining further...

Here we go again. About the universe thing, the point is we haven't really seen SMB/DKC/WW series have major controadictoy collision. Although Wario appeared in Super Mario Land and Super Mario 64 remake before, he's technically not a recurring SMB character. It would lead fans believe that...

Sorry if this question sounds offensive: Is he important to Mario series / Nintendo and Square Enix at this point? This should be a fair question. Both companies would have to promote their own original characters in the first place. Kingdom Heart series, which is co-develped by SE an Disney, is...

Well actually if Mario series have been strictly only include Super Mario bros characters that'd be fine. But the fact is seeing DK series (which shouldn't join by your theory) and all those guest characters makes us think about Warioware crew. In general I think Warioware crew are fun and have...

Agree all of this. Technically Diddy is way too favored for him exactly being a non-Mario character but has made so many appearances so far. At least, Dixie deserves more love. Oh? There is sure no license issue to bring in characters from related series. Just suspect that Nintendo rather...

On the other hand the grandparent theory would not explain the canon from the current Mario the Jumpman and Pauline, unless the ones from the original arcade game were actually their grandparents. But since Miyamoto didn't say add this to explain Pauline's role today, I assume the grandparent...

Re: More official "costumes" --- character texture swaps? Yeah, not really activated when SSB4 was released. We mentioned Dr. Mario and Rosalina and they ended up as independent fighters in SSB4. Not sure about the Kooaplins, would they also be called echo fighters in SSB5?

Just similiar with some of his roles in Mario's sport titles, Toad is often not considered a major fighter or hero on his own. Which is why despite he's one of the mainstream character, he is still shadowed by newer but powerful characters such as Wario or BoweserJr. But the Captain Toad title...

Re: More official "costumes" --- character texture swaps? Weird, I didn't think this idea would be officially done. But just wish that they could do Funky or Shadow.