FANTASY MATCH: Bowser vs. Ganondorf

[GalacticPetey]

I haven't done a fantasy match in awhile. So today we have two of the biggest video game villains going head to head.

Bios:
Bowser:
http://www.mariowiki.com/Bowser

Ganondorf:
http://zeldawiki.org/Ganon

Arena:
Hyrule Field (OoT)

Special Rules:
Both combatants have access to all their moves from their games, including Smash Bros. Yes, that includes Giga Bowser (no invincibility) and Beast Ganon.

My thoughts:
This will be a tough fight. Ganon is a much smarter fighter, but Bowser has a lot of brute strength. I'm not sure how well Bowser will deal with those magical projectiles. Ganondorf's sword will also be deadly up close. I'm gonna give it to Ganondorf.

As always, post your thoughts below. Just remember, don't pick a winner just because you like them better. Make sure you explain your choice.

 

[Dr. Javelin]

Without superforms, this battle would probably go to Ganondorf. Considering Bowser loses to a plumber whose only power is jumping and spinning, a dark sorcerer with an awesome horse and sword (or double swords in Wind Waker) would have no trouble defeating him. Plus he's got the Triforce of Power which makes him nigh-impossible to kill without a weapon that directly attacks evil, so Bowser's doomed.

With superforms, and assuming the Triforce of Power doesn't make Ganondorf impervious to Bowser's attacks (although it probably would), Giga Bowser has a slight advantage over Beast Ganon in terms of size and firepower (ha). Beast Ganon (OOT) has swords though, and Pig Ganon is no slouch (although Giga Bowser could probably defeat him due to being larger).

 

[LeftyGreenMario]

Ganondorf will win. I've been in a match between level 9 Ganondorf and Bowser, and Ganondorf is killed less.

 

[GalacticPetey]

Considering Bowser loses to a plumber whose only power is jumping and spinning

I think it's safe to assume that Mario is different from most humans. Those jumps and spins may be stronger than they appear.

 

[LeftyGreenMario]

Considering Bowser loses to a plumber whose only power is jumping and spinning

I think it's safe to assume that Mario is different from most humans. Those jumps and spins may be stronger than they appear.

Not to mention, Mario isn't *just* a plumber. Bowser has also survived instances where, if applied to reality, would've killed a human being (i.e. live in worlds surrounded by lava; lava can scorch you if you get close to it).

And maybe Bowser's hide is tough enough to deflect swords and magic (but not Mario's fireballs).

 

[GalacticPetey]

If his hide can be hurt by Mario's fireballs, I think Ganon's magic will do quite a bit of damage. His sword would probably cut Bowser's chest open, though I'm not sure how durable his front is. His shell could probably protect from sword swings and energy blasts.

 

[LeftyGreenMario]

If his hide can be hurt by Mario's fireballs, I think Ganon's magic will do quite a bit of damage. His sword would probably cut Bowser's chest open, though I'm not sure how durable is front is. His shell could probably protect from sword swings and energy blasts.

It depends. Fireballs and magic and two different things, so we don't know if Bowser is impervious.

Overall, these cross-universe battles are silly.

 

[Dr. Javelin]

Considering Bowser loses to a plumber whose only power is jumping and spinning

I think it's safe to assume that Mario is different from most humans. Those jumps and spins may be stronger than they appear.

The jumps I agree with, but I still doubt they're more powerful than a magic missile or a sword.

Especially if Ganondorf uses that magic Sage sword from Twilight Princess. That thing was boss. Or at least it looked boss. His double swords did more damage in Wind Waker.

Overall, these cross-universe battles are silly.

boooooooooooooooo

 

[GalacticPetey]

To be fair, he did have two swords. Two swords is usually better than one.

Overall, these cross-universe battles are silly.

I personally find them fun and interesting.

 

[LeftyGreenMario]

To be fair, he did have two swords. Two swords is usually better than one.

Overall, these cross-universe battles are silly.

I personally find them fun and interesting.

Two swords are pretty pointless since you'll be prone to more attacks, not to mention, you'll have to add more weight (armor) to your frame.

I find them silly because we have no idea how attacks' properties work if they're in another universe. For instance, you have no idea how strong Mario's jump can be. Okay, it can one-shot a Goomba, but if it translates to another universe, it may, like, obliterate Ganondorf in one hit?

 

[Ray Trace]

I think Ganondorf will win because can't he be slain only by Link?

 

[LeftyGreenMario]

I think Ganondorf will win because can't he be slain only by Link?

Only in the Link universe.

 

[Shyghoul]

To be fair, he did have two swords. Two swords is usually better than one.

Overall, these cross-universe battles are silly.

I personally find them fun and interesting.

Two swords are pretty pointless since you'll be prone to more attacks, not to mention, you'll have to add more weight (armor) to your frame.

how does having two swords make someone more prone to attacks

 

[Zae]

To be fair, he did have two swords. Two swords is usually better than one.

Overall, these cross-universe battles are silly.

I personally find them fun and interesting.

Two swords are pretty pointless since you'll be prone to more attacks, not to mention, you'll have to add more weight (armor) to your frame.

how does having two swords make someone more prone to attacks

well you gotta admit that lgm has experience with fighting with swords.

 

[ernesth100]

I say Bowser...He has an army.

 

[GalacticPetey]

I say Bowser...He has an army.

So does Ganondorf.

But no outside help is allowed.

 

[ernesth100]

Aw. Well without the army Bowser just...Bowser.

 

[Dr. Javelin]

To be fair, he did have two swords. Two swords is usually better than one.

Overall, these cross-universe battles are silly.

I personally find them fun and interesting.

Two swords are pretty pointless since you'll be prone to more attacks, not to mention, you'll have to add more weight (armor) to your frame.

Uh, what? Swords =/= armor. I don't get where you're saying that. You can use swords without having armor, and considering Ganondorf is super tough anyways to the point of being nigh-unkillable, I doubt he would wear armor. He certainly doesn't in Wind Waker.

I find them silly because we have no idea how attacks' properties work if they're in another universe. For instance, you have no idea how strong Mario's jump can be. Okay, it can one-shot a Goomba, but if it translates to another universe, it may, like, obliterate Ganondorf in one hit?

Speculation is fun though. And be reasonable - it would be absurd for Mario's jump to obliterate Ganondorf in one hit.

 

[Zae]

well the whole having to wear armor while using two swords is pretty hilarious.

As it would leave the user even more open weighing them down.

Not to mention if you want to have two swords you need to be fast as possible.

Learning to use two swords for defensive measure is also a good.

rpgs and action games have taught me this at least.

 

[ernesth100]

But then again Bowsers jumps create shockwaves plus he's apparently very agile in Mario Galaxy.

 

[Zae]

But then again Bowsers jumps create shockwaves plus he's apparently very agile in Mario Galaxy.

only when he's on fire

 

[ernesth100]

What? Have you played mario galaxy?

 

[Zae]

What? Have you played mario galaxy?

yes, he was pretty slow otherwise.

Or at least his first battle, i didnt beat the game due to how boring it was.

 

[ernesth100]

Resisting urge to brutaly defend mario galaxy.

 

[Dr. Javelin]

What? Have you played mario galaxy?

yes, he was pretty slow otherwise.

Or at least his first battle, i didnt beat the game due to how boring it was.

Well in the final battle he speeds up considerably and has a slew of new attacks to spice things up.

He was still a rather easy boss, but he at least looked cool and I had to try to dodge his attacks. The one where he spews fireballs everywhere and they loop around the planet was especially awesome.

Oh and the music was great.