You can view my original post on tumblr here: http://uh-huh-alright-daisy.tumblr.com/. I've made this to respond to a lot of the things held against this character, and not to make you a fan of her, but to get people informed. Points of it take from the work I've done on her article on the MarioWiki, as well! Should be a good read for any Mario fan. As a side note, I also foundit interesting there's a current topic on this forum speaking of the discussions of how fans respond to new spin-off characters. People seem to really care about whether characters they like are playable in spin-offs despite simultaneously knocking characters for appearing in them. That's really interesting! I hope to participate more in the forum than just this, nice to meet you!
Daisy is just a Peach clone! The Ultimate Response
Daisys just a Peach recolor!
Peach is a blonde and Daisys a ginger. Peachs dress is rose and pink while Daisys is yellow and orange. Peachs jewels are blue and Daisys have been green since 2002. They dont even have the same skin-tone despite Daisy having a short-lived tan. So they are color-coded for your convenience, but they are not differentiated by color alone.
Daisy has always had her own facial-features and hair-style, as seen in her first two appearances, Super Mario Land and NES Open Tournament Golf, but in 2000 her facial-features were made more distinct in Mario Tennis on the Nintendo 64. In 2002, with the release of Mario Party 4 on the Nintendo GameCube, this became more obvious with the graphic-enhancements from the jump in console generations.
At this same time, Daisy was also given an even more unique hairstyle, as well as her own body-type. Shes shorter than Peach, and is recognized as being thicker than her, having even been categorized in a heavier weight-class in some Mario Kart games.
The most similar thing about their appearances are the princess gowns. Even those are differentiated, though, with Daisy having a flower motif, as well as a number of other visible differences. Meanwhile, Mario and Luigi wear the exact, same outfit aside from Luigis hat having an L patch and Marios having an M. Additionally, in 2003, with the release of Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour, Daisy and Peach are shown to have different, primary athletic-clothing; Daisy having sport shorts, and Peach a miniskirt.
Daisys just a Peach recolor! in-close
The alternate color Peach has in the Smash Bros. series of Daisys color-scheme is just that. Mario has had a Wario color since the first game, and even Luigi has a Waluigi color; so on with many others in the series. The discrepancy was in Melee, where they added Daisys floral details to the alternate outfit. This was based on their appearances on the N64, a time when, as exemplified, the characters appearances werent as established and differentiated as they now are. This was not an actual representation of Daisy, and unlike Luigi to Mario, Daisy has never been a Peach recolor.
Daisy doesnt have a personality!
In 2003, with the release of Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour, Daisy was given a new voice, Deanna Mustard. Daisys voice finally matched her original description of being a tomboyish, energetic Princess. This was a description made in her debut as a damsel-in-distress, despite the role. On the character select-screen, Daisy poses from side to side, flexing her arms and exclaiming, Mhm! Mhm! sassily. Some of her quotes from the game include: Sup, Im new, but golf is my thing! And Ill go toe-to-toe to prove it! Seriously, are you aiming there? and, Yes, yes! I rule! I rule!
From here on, Daisys vernacular has had an American twang and recurring usage of Western slang. Yo! is a catchphrase Daisy utters in various appearances.
In 2004, in Mario Power Tennis, Daisy will scoff, Tch, Im so sure! and, Whatever! in response to the opponent getting a point. In her trophy ceremony, she rolls-out in a pair of roller-blades, remarking to Luigi, Hey sweetie! Ill take that, as she jumps, spins, and lands to grab the trophy from him, leaving him spinning until he collapses.
Super Mario Strikers, 2005. Daisy will come out on the field exclaiming, Yeah? Yeah?! throwing her arms open and grimacing at her opponent before, Tch. Mm-mm, turning away in disapproval. Scoring a goal, she pops her hip and licks her finger before touching it to her thigh, sounding out, Tsssss- Ow, Daisy!
Mario Strikers Charged, 2007. Daisy drops down onto the field, raising up off the ground to exclaim, Oh, yeah? Come on! striking a boxer-pose as a bell rings-out. Upon being scored on, Daisy will turn to her teammates, crossing her arms and tapping her foot as she furiously growls; they are seen trembling beneath her. Scoring a goal, she brushes her shoulders off one before the other, simultaneously, Uh-huh! Alright! Daisy! followed by shrugging.
A selection of the many quotes from 2011′s Fortune Street include:
Daisy doesnt have a personality! in-close
So Daisy is not as proper or poised as she would be based on her appearance and status as royalty. Shes usually standing with her hands on her hips, exhibiting hotheadedness in defeat, showboating in victory, and showing off to get her way. Yes, she partakes in the princess life of luxury, but shes well extroverted and outgoing, and as exemplified, shes tough and sassy, too. Sounds like a personality whether you like it or not.
Daisys annoying!
If thats your opinion, why are you saying it as if its a fact? You stop that. You can irrationally hate something if you want to, but it doesnt reinforce the other negative matters here, and it doesnt negate the facts. Any Mario character could be accused of being annoying. How about, Wah! And, Its-a-me, Mario! Additionally, Ohhh- Did I win? Finally, [Random Animal Noises from DK]. Even Rosalina emotes. What you could find annoying about a character, all their fans could find admirable or charming about them.
Daisys just a filler-character!
A filler-character is someone merely included to make numbers, rather than to add something to the cast. Filler-characters have no intellectual or entertaining value, and no input.
This is only applicable to Daisy in certain appearances, and to certain extents. For example, in most Mario Party games there is nothing to differentiate the characters from one-another when it comes to most of the gameplay, but most of Daisys appearances in these games still include doses of her unique personality and representation, which are elements of gameplay. The best example would be in Super Mario Land, where Daisy filled the role of the damsel-in-distress, much as Peach does in most of her appearances in this role. This is the one and only time Daisy ever fills this role herself, however.
It should be pointed out, also, that Daisy was reintroduced into Mario games in Mario Tennis because they wanted more human characters. That is filling a role, but that doesnt necessarily equate to being a filler-character; which should be obvious. In this game, Daisy did have her own play-style, voice, appearance, and personality. Indeed, for the first time she was portrayed to be outgoing, jumping around the court with each point. She also gets so caught up in her own victory celebration, she falls off the stage.
As her appearances continued, Daisy proved to have even more differences in play-style than not just Peach, but the other characters, too. In Mario Golf, Daisys play-style is entirely unique, having her own, designated attributes. In Mario Power Tennis on the NGC, Daisys flower powers are heavily explored, being able to summon petals around her racket to deliver a powerful shot, and being able to float over a growing bed of flowers to reach the ball for a defensive return. As of the most recent tennis game, Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash, Daisy is no longer even in the same category-type as Peach, being an All-Around type instead of a Technique type like in her earlier tennis appearances, showing this character continues to evolve over time.
Daisy has her own special abilities in many other games, as well. In the first baseball game, Mario Superstar Baseball, Daisy has the Flower Ball, which conceals her ball in a barrage of confusing petals. In the second baseball game, Mario Super Sluggers, she has the Flower Swing, which conceals her balls destination in a flower-garden with an accompanying fence, guarding it off. She has the unique ability of a Super Dive, as well, letting her dive great lengths to catch a ball. This game also introduced Baby Daisy, who has appeared in numerous games since. Daisy also has the Crystal Smash from Mario Strikers Charged, a special ability where Daisy punches the ground, which then erupts with giant, jagged crystals that wreck opponents. In Mario Sports Mix Daisy pulls out a pair of pom-poms to deflect objects and people.
Daisy also has her own levels in games like Mario Kart, where the Daisy Cruiser, her own, personal cruise-ship, was introduced. This level reappears in numerous Mario Kart games, and served as her personal stadium in Mario Super Sluggers. Other Daisy levels include the Daisy Circuit, Daisy Hills, and Crystal Canyon.
Daisys just a filler-character! in-close
They do not pay separate actors money to reprise a role for over a decade, create multiple versions of, create entire levels based-on, develop a unique design for, design multiple costumes for. establish a unique personality for, create individual special-abilities for, and assign personal-statistics to a mere filler-character.
Daisy has received developmental changes over time that address these matters. Saying things like this really ignores that effort, and it only acknowledges her status and description in her earliest appearances.
Daisys a spin-off character!
Daisy has appeared in more than fifty games to this day, December 15th, 2015. Forty-four of her appearances have her as a playable character. One of her appearances was in a Mario platformer game, that being her debut-appearance, Super Mario Land.
Did her appearance in this game contribute to the game, or even she herself? Well, it established her kingdom, and her description as a tomboy princess. It served to set a Mario game in a place outside of the Mushroom Kingdom for a change. If she was merely created for the spin-off games, shed probably have less going for her characters background and history. Still, as covered, she herself didnt receive much of any notable attention in the game, serving as the measly, damsel-in-distress role Peach has so often.
The platformers arent necessarily all that theyre made out to be by Nintendo fans. The spin-off games are no less canonical to the Mario series than any of the platformers, and Nintendo gives zero gold-coins about story compared to gameplay either way. The platformers can be just as much of cash-grabs, too. Anyone who plays most Mario games should know all that. Why is it then that so much importance is placed on a character appearing in the platformers compared to the spin-offs?
Well for some characters the platformers have given that opportunity for good character growth in a short number of appearances, as opposed to the character growth exemplified here for Daisy, which has occurred over many appearances. That doesnt mean that being in a platformer necessarily will give character growth, however. Many of the characters appearances in the platformers have given just as little to them as some of the spin-offs. There is still a clear advantage in a character gaining development in one of the platformers, however. This is simply what it comes down to.
Daisys a spin-off character! in-close
So yes, Daisy is a spin-off character. Theres a lot not being accounted for in her decade and a half of consistent appearances, though. A lot that has added-up to garner respect that shes not getting.
So its like a double-edged sword where she now has a lot going for her because of these appearances, but the stigma of appearing in only spin-offs is preventing enough recognition.
Her fans still yearn for her to appear in more opportunistic roles because we know its what could turn others around. Appearing in the platformers or something like a Smash Bros. game would put her in the spotlight she needs to show all that shes become. I hope the people who say these things against the character can read this and get a grasp of all there is they may be missing.
Daisys just a Peach recolor!
Peach is a blonde and Daisys a ginger. Peachs dress is rose and pink while Daisys is yellow and orange. Peachs jewels are blue and Daisys have been green since 2002. They dont even have the same skin-tone despite Daisy having a short-lived tan. So they are color-coded for your convenience, but they are not differentiated by color alone.
Daisy has always had her own facial-features and hair-style, as seen in her first two appearances, Super Mario Land and NES Open Tournament Golf, but in 2000 her facial-features were made more distinct in Mario Tennis on the Nintendo 64. In 2002, with the release of Mario Party 4 on the Nintendo GameCube, this became more obvious with the graphic-enhancements from the jump in console generations.
At this same time, Daisy was also given an even more unique hairstyle, as well as her own body-type. Shes shorter than Peach, and is recognized as being thicker than her, having even been categorized in a heavier weight-class in some Mario Kart games.
The most similar thing about their appearances are the princess gowns. Even those are differentiated, though, with Daisy having a flower motif, as well as a number of other visible differences. Meanwhile, Mario and Luigi wear the exact, same outfit aside from Luigis hat having an L patch and Marios having an M. Additionally, in 2003, with the release of Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour, Daisy and Peach are shown to have different, primary athletic-clothing; Daisy having sport shorts, and Peach a miniskirt.
Daisys just a Peach recolor! in-close
The alternate color Peach has in the Smash Bros. series of Daisys color-scheme is just that. Mario has had a Wario color since the first game, and even Luigi has a Waluigi color; so on with many others in the series. The discrepancy was in Melee, where they added Daisys floral details to the alternate outfit. This was based on their appearances on the N64, a time when, as exemplified, the characters appearances werent as established and differentiated as they now are. This was not an actual representation of Daisy, and unlike Luigi to Mario, Daisy has never been a Peach recolor.
Daisy doesnt have a personality!
In 2003, with the release of Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour, Daisy was given a new voice, Deanna Mustard. Daisys voice finally matched her original description of being a tomboyish, energetic Princess. This was a description made in her debut as a damsel-in-distress, despite the role. On the character select-screen, Daisy poses from side to side, flexing her arms and exclaiming, Mhm! Mhm! sassily. Some of her quotes from the game include: Sup, Im new, but golf is my thing! And Ill go toe-to-toe to prove it! Seriously, are you aiming there? and, Yes, yes! I rule! I rule!
From here on, Daisys vernacular has had an American twang and recurring usage of Western slang. Yo! is a catchphrase Daisy utters in various appearances.
In 2004, in Mario Power Tennis, Daisy will scoff, Tch, Im so sure! and, Whatever! in response to the opponent getting a point. In her trophy ceremony, she rolls-out in a pair of roller-blades, remarking to Luigi, Hey sweetie! Ill take that, as she jumps, spins, and lands to grab the trophy from him, leaving him spinning until he collapses.
Super Mario Strikers, 2005. Daisy will come out on the field exclaiming, Yeah? Yeah?! throwing her arms open and grimacing at her opponent before, Tch. Mm-mm, turning away in disapproval. Scoring a goal, she pops her hip and licks her finger before touching it to her thigh, sounding out, Tsssss- Ow, Daisy!
Mario Strikers Charged, 2007. Daisy drops down onto the field, raising up off the ground to exclaim, Oh, yeah? Come on! striking a boxer-pose as a bell rings-out. Upon being scored on, Daisy will turn to her teammates, crossing her arms and tapping her foot as she furiously growls; they are seen trembling beneath her. Scoring a goal, she brushes her shoulders off one before the other, simultaneously, Uh-huh! Alright! Daisy! followed by shrugging.
A selection of the many quotes from 2011′s Fortune Street include:
- Yeah, sure. Big castle. Woooo. Im totally impressed. Could use a few more flowers though
- I bet Bowser seriously thinks this goofy castle is totally intimidating. As if!
- I totally want to scale up the side of that statue. What a challenge!
- Im supposed to pick out a new trade here, huh? Lets see Maybe I should be a professional athlete! Yeah!
- You may wonder why I want to win so badly. Well, its cause I just HATE losing!
- Winning is a matter of timing and luck. I dont have either, but Ive never let that stop me before!
- Dont underestimate me, people! Just because Im a princess doesnt mean I wont fight dirty!
- If you give me a good number, little die, Ill promote you to court jester! Im a princess - I can do that!
Daisy doesnt have a personality! in-close
So Daisy is not as proper or poised as she would be based on her appearance and status as royalty. Shes usually standing with her hands on her hips, exhibiting hotheadedness in defeat, showboating in victory, and showing off to get her way. Yes, she partakes in the princess life of luxury, but shes well extroverted and outgoing, and as exemplified, shes tough and sassy, too. Sounds like a personality whether you like it or not.
Daisys annoying!
If thats your opinion, why are you saying it as if its a fact? You stop that. You can irrationally hate something if you want to, but it doesnt reinforce the other negative matters here, and it doesnt negate the facts. Any Mario character could be accused of being annoying. How about, Wah! And, Its-a-me, Mario! Additionally, Ohhh- Did I win? Finally, [Random Animal Noises from DK]. Even Rosalina emotes. What you could find annoying about a character, all their fans could find admirable or charming about them.
Daisys just a filler-character!
A filler-character is someone merely included to make numbers, rather than to add something to the cast. Filler-characters have no intellectual or entertaining value, and no input.
This is only applicable to Daisy in certain appearances, and to certain extents. For example, in most Mario Party games there is nothing to differentiate the characters from one-another when it comes to most of the gameplay, but most of Daisys appearances in these games still include doses of her unique personality and representation, which are elements of gameplay. The best example would be in Super Mario Land, where Daisy filled the role of the damsel-in-distress, much as Peach does in most of her appearances in this role. This is the one and only time Daisy ever fills this role herself, however.
It should be pointed out, also, that Daisy was reintroduced into Mario games in Mario Tennis because they wanted more human characters. That is filling a role, but that doesnt necessarily equate to being a filler-character; which should be obvious. In this game, Daisy did have her own play-style, voice, appearance, and personality. Indeed, for the first time she was portrayed to be outgoing, jumping around the court with each point. She also gets so caught up in her own victory celebration, she falls off the stage.
As her appearances continued, Daisy proved to have even more differences in play-style than not just Peach, but the other characters, too. In Mario Golf, Daisys play-style is entirely unique, having her own, designated attributes. In Mario Power Tennis on the NGC, Daisys flower powers are heavily explored, being able to summon petals around her racket to deliver a powerful shot, and being able to float over a growing bed of flowers to reach the ball for a defensive return. As of the most recent tennis game, Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash, Daisy is no longer even in the same category-type as Peach, being an All-Around type instead of a Technique type like in her earlier tennis appearances, showing this character continues to evolve over time.
Daisy has her own special abilities in many other games, as well. In the first baseball game, Mario Superstar Baseball, Daisy has the Flower Ball, which conceals her ball in a barrage of confusing petals. In the second baseball game, Mario Super Sluggers, she has the Flower Swing, which conceals her balls destination in a flower-garden with an accompanying fence, guarding it off. She has the unique ability of a Super Dive, as well, letting her dive great lengths to catch a ball. This game also introduced Baby Daisy, who has appeared in numerous games since. Daisy also has the Crystal Smash from Mario Strikers Charged, a special ability where Daisy punches the ground, which then erupts with giant, jagged crystals that wreck opponents. In Mario Sports Mix Daisy pulls out a pair of pom-poms to deflect objects and people.
Daisy also has her own levels in games like Mario Kart, where the Daisy Cruiser, her own, personal cruise-ship, was introduced. This level reappears in numerous Mario Kart games, and served as her personal stadium in Mario Super Sluggers. Other Daisy levels include the Daisy Circuit, Daisy Hills, and Crystal Canyon.
Daisys just a filler-character! in-close
They do not pay separate actors money to reprise a role for over a decade, create multiple versions of, create entire levels based-on, develop a unique design for, design multiple costumes for. establish a unique personality for, create individual special-abilities for, and assign personal-statistics to a mere filler-character.
Daisy has received developmental changes over time that address these matters. Saying things like this really ignores that effort, and it only acknowledges her status and description in her earliest appearances.
Daisys a spin-off character!
Daisy has appeared in more than fifty games to this day, December 15th, 2015. Forty-four of her appearances have her as a playable character. One of her appearances was in a Mario platformer game, that being her debut-appearance, Super Mario Land.
Did her appearance in this game contribute to the game, or even she herself? Well, it established her kingdom, and her description as a tomboy princess. It served to set a Mario game in a place outside of the Mushroom Kingdom for a change. If she was merely created for the spin-off games, shed probably have less going for her characters background and history. Still, as covered, she herself didnt receive much of any notable attention in the game, serving as the measly, damsel-in-distress role Peach has so often.
The platformers arent necessarily all that theyre made out to be by Nintendo fans. The spin-off games are no less canonical to the Mario series than any of the platformers, and Nintendo gives zero gold-coins about story compared to gameplay either way. The platformers can be just as much of cash-grabs, too. Anyone who plays most Mario games should know all that. Why is it then that so much importance is placed on a character appearing in the platformers compared to the spin-offs?
Well for some characters the platformers have given that opportunity for good character growth in a short number of appearances, as opposed to the character growth exemplified here for Daisy, which has occurred over many appearances. That doesnt mean that being in a platformer necessarily will give character growth, however. Many of the characters appearances in the platformers have given just as little to them as some of the spin-offs. There is still a clear advantage in a character gaining development in one of the platformers, however. This is simply what it comes down to.
Daisys a spin-off character! in-close
So yes, Daisy is a spin-off character. Theres a lot not being accounted for in her decade and a half of consistent appearances, though. A lot that has added-up to garner respect that shes not getting.
So its like a double-edged sword where she now has a lot going for her because of these appearances, but the stigma of appearing in only spin-offs is preventing enough recognition.
Her fans still yearn for her to appear in more opportunistic roles because we know its what could turn others around. Appearing in the platformers or something like a Smash Bros. game would put her in the spotlight she needs to show all that shes become. I hope the people who say these things against the character can read this and get a grasp of all there is they may be missing.
