Wayoshi
PM Pro
No, St00by, I did not haxor any access rights. Girrr kindly gave me the contents of your post:
When I was prodding ChaosNinji, in his own rare chat appearance, about the recent banning of Uni, he said I did not know the whole story (to that effect - the actual verbatim was a bit more...CN-ish. :P ). But having been around chat for entire days, even a week at a time this summer, and actually having the longest history in the chatroom by definition, I'm pretty sure I can talk nice & cleanly about this - and since you're hardly in there, I'd like to set some things straight for everyone.
1. Troll(s?) do not come in everyday. Yes, there is Maria, but I haven't heard any major issue this entire month. And to be honest, I'm pretty sure that's the only troll in awhile.
2. We respect each other in our own way. We each do our own thing. Many of us are kids who tease because it's fun [for them]. I haven't seen any genuine hate at all, perhaps some general dislike in a couple of cases, but in no way at all is it a fighting zone. People respond when I post the stupid other votes of the awards with the usual LOLs and ROFLs, and all that stuff. I find myself in an above-average community to be honest.
3. The ops ARE incompetent, but again, so what? You are right about the games - S-Y does a lot of netplay, etc. Neu leaving wasn't the best thing. So when things get a bit hectic, it escalates more than it should, and that is where the most "rules" are broken (which need to be rewritten to stop b****ing on the small things and focus on the bigger stuff) But we need sysops to appoint ops, since they should know the users the best...but oh my! I haven't seen a competent sysop as an op lately. Not even a crat who may know even more. Steve doing his thing is something I have always been outspoken against, but I will assume he won't be a factor in this little squabble as usual.
4. Wiki feuds...what feuds?? I never heard of such a thing ever. That stuff probably breeds off of users trying to get their own chat and getting jealous or something. Any user causing enough global dislike is actually banned by - wow - semi-competent ops when they are called! Nice.
5. THIS CHATROOM ORIGINATED IN THE FORUM, NOT THE WIKI. IT IS MEANT FOR AN ESCAPE FROM THE STRICT REGULATIONS OF THE WIKI (OR AN ALTERNATIVE TO PARTICIPATING ON THIS SITE). TAKING THIS AWAY WILL CAUSE AN UNNECESSARY IMBALANCE IN THE SITE.
So, again, St00by, as you admitted yourself, (and to be frank) you don't have any *bleep*ing idea what the situation is. There will always be active users on chat but they aren't going to be there the whole time they are technically online. I consider myself an active partaker in there but I watch the Red Sox games, do some ROM stuff sometimes (often overlooking the chat as the first background window), eat, read summer reading...so maybe there isn't another 24/7, Neu-type person out there, but does the chat NEED 24/7 surveillance? I certainly think not.
Also, there will be a major backslash if you do not use a proposal to try to restrict chat, in fact, this probably requires Steve's approval as well. So you will have to overcome quite a bit if you choose to continue with your faultily-reasoned idea.
When I was prodding ChaosNinji, in his own rare chat appearance, about the recent banning of Uni, he said I did not know the whole story (to that effect - the actual verbatim was a bit more...CN-ish. :P ). But having been around chat for entire days, even a week at a time this summer, and actually having the longest history in the chatroom by definition, I'm pretty sure I can talk nice & cleanly about this - and since you're hardly in there, I'd like to set some things straight for everyone.
1. Troll(s?) do not come in everyday. Yes, there is Maria, but I haven't heard any major issue this entire month. And to be honest, I'm pretty sure that's the only troll in awhile.
2. We respect each other in our own way. We each do our own thing. Many of us are kids who tease because it's fun [for them]. I haven't seen any genuine hate at all, perhaps some general dislike in a couple of cases, but in no way at all is it a fighting zone. People respond when I post the stupid other votes of the awards with the usual LOLs and ROFLs, and all that stuff. I find myself in an above-average community to be honest.
3. The ops ARE incompetent, but again, so what? You are right about the games - S-Y does a lot of netplay, etc. Neu leaving wasn't the best thing. So when things get a bit hectic, it escalates more than it should, and that is where the most "rules" are broken (which need to be rewritten to stop b****ing on the small things and focus on the bigger stuff) But we need sysops to appoint ops, since they should know the users the best...but oh my! I haven't seen a competent sysop as an op lately. Not even a crat who may know even more. Steve doing his thing is something I have always been outspoken against, but I will assume he won't be a factor in this little squabble as usual.
4. Wiki feuds...what feuds?? I never heard of such a thing ever. That stuff probably breeds off of users trying to get their own chat and getting jealous or something. Any user causing enough global dislike is actually banned by - wow - semi-competent ops when they are called! Nice.
5. THIS CHATROOM ORIGINATED IN THE FORUM, NOT THE WIKI. IT IS MEANT FOR AN ESCAPE FROM THE STRICT REGULATIONS OF THE WIKI (OR AN ALTERNATIVE TO PARTICIPATING ON THIS SITE). TAKING THIS AWAY WILL CAUSE AN UNNECESSARY IMBALANCE IN THE SITE.
So, again, St00by, as you admitted yourself, (and to be frank) you don't have any *bleep*ing idea what the situation is. There will always be active users on chat but they aren't going to be there the whole time they are technically online. I consider myself an active partaker in there but I watch the Red Sox games, do some ROM stuff sometimes (often overlooking the chat as the first background window), eat, read summer reading...so maybe there isn't another 24/7, Neu-type person out there, but does the chat NEED 24/7 surveillance? I certainly think not.
Also, there will be a major backslash if you do not use a proposal to try to restrict chat, in fact, this probably requires Steve's approval as well. So you will have to overcome quite a bit if you choose to continue with your faultily-reasoned idea.
