Unpopular opinions about the Mario series
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It's called an opinion. The thread title is called "Unpopular opinions of the Mario series", and it's my opinion, and so clearly it belongs here. People can have different opinions, you know.Shadow said:
Either way, that's not what I was saying. Don't put words in my mouth. I never grew up on every single classic Mario game there is like a lot of people.
In fact, my first Mario game was NSMB, therefore it could be considered a "classic" for me.
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Rin Kagamine said:
I don't care if it's an opinion; opinions can be formed by misinformation too. I can understand you enjoy New Super Mario Bros. 2, but justifying how the game is a stagnant, rehashed, cynical cash-grab baffles me. It's a legitimate criticism for a game to be exactly the same as it has been. No changes, no improvements, and barely any effort to differentiate itself, and its stand-out mechanic is not built around as the reward is miniscule. Nintendo has the resources to make an entirely different game, and they can pour more effort into making a Mario game that actually tries to stand-out, but nope, Mario sells, so that encourages them to put as least effort as possible into the game. Movies, in a related note, also get criticized if they are too much the same like another movie, and yes, they are legitamate criticisms.
I wouldn't have defended myself if you haven't said that games can't be criticized for being more of the same.
Glaceon said:
It does last longer than that; the game just stops tracking your time when you reach there.
I didn't say that, or at least I didn't mean to put it that way. I wasn't saying people couldn't criticize, I was just saying I really didn't understand why. There is a difference.
The grateful part i didn't really mean though, and I'm sorry if that sounded rude.
I just wasn't getting it. That's all.
The grateful part i didn't really mean though, and I'm sorry if that sounded rude.
I just wasn't getting it. That's all.
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Well, I'm just explaining it to you why we think the same games over and over are not a good thing. This is basically the same reason I don't like Pokemon; it just bores me to death.
btw, Mario Party is not a stagnating franchise (I mean look at all the change, it made the series even WORSE)
btw, Mario Party is not a stagnating franchise (I mean look at all the change, it made the series even WORSE)
I get it now. Thanks.
And actually, I do agree on the Mario Party theme, even though I've only played DS, 8, and a little bit of 9 at a friend's house though.
And actually, I do agree on the Mario Party theme, even though I've only played DS, 8, and a little bit of 9 at a friend's house though.
That's pretty much Bowser in a nutshell. Despite the fact that he comes up with the same boring, repetitive plans almost every time, he still gets next to nothing but praise among the fans, where they constantly drone on about how "awesome" and "badass" he is. Somehow, he also managed to win the "Best Video Game Villain of All Time" award in the gamer's edition of the Guinness World Records, further proving my point on how overrated he is. How Bowser, of all people, managed to get such an award is beyond me.Count Bleck said:
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Everything that drowns me makes me wanna fly!
That's awesome.Baby Luigi said:
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Everything that drowns me makes me wanna fly!
I can only name one, that's probably Ganondorf.
Pffft. There are tons of better villains than Bowser, even within the same series. Every one of the RPG villains had him outclassed.
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I can name 10 Mario villains.Baby Luigi said:
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Dimentio
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Cackletta
Popple
Shroobs
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They actually had organized plans for the most part. Those who didn't were justified by being side villains. Primary antagonists, however, should have organized evil plans.
EDIT: Crap I named 11. Proves my point even more, lol
To be fair, Doopliss, Popple, and Mr. L weren't the main villains in any of their respective games, nor were they trying to rule the world, destroy it, or anything of the sort, so comparing them to Bowser is kind of like comparing apples to oranges. I'm definitely in agreement about the others, though. Pretty much every one of them came up with plans that are far better than anything Bowser ever has. I guess Antasma's a bit of a special case, since they gave him little to no time to shine or develop as a character. Even so, I still consider him to be the real villain of Dream Team, since all Bowser basically did was leech off of his work.
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Guys, Petey Piranha is obviously the best Mario villain.
ernesth100
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Its clearly Smithy.
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Mario is the best villain.
ernesth100
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Well he did kill hundreds of toads in SMB3
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No he didn't.
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Guys I thought of a new idea, to explore… guys?
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I liked Bowser in the RPGs (with 1 obvious exception)Count Bleck said:
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He's also the main villain in Mario Kart Wii and Mario Party because he murdered beloved CPU characters multiple times.Thermidor 2 said:
ernesth100
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Bowsers determination easily makes him the best villian ever.