The Koopalings are NOT Bowser's Children.

Legolas said:
JohnRoberts said:
You know what? I think I know where I'm going to go with this. *puts on trench coat* Tonight, on Unsolved Mysteries, we're going to talk about what the case of Shigeru Miyamoto saying that Bowser Jr. is the only child and the Koopalings are not Bowser's children does. UPDATE! Several Koopaling fans are infuriated by this statement. UPDATE! Several questions have been raised relating to this statement, so how many questions does this raise? UPDATE! The amount of questions raised is countless. UPDATE! Now there is a giant truckload of theories relating to those questions. A few of them are: 1. They might be related to Bowser in another way. 2. They are the children of a minion (such as Boom-Boom and/or Pom-Pom). 3. They were made with (the unnatural combination of science and) magic. 4. They really are Bowser's children but Bowser just won't admit it. 5. Bowser disowned them. 6. They are adopted. 7. They are the children of a character that isn't even in the games (yet). 8. Bowser split into two and one of the sides had the Koopalings. UPDATE! Theories , 3, 6, and 8 are absolutely retarded (because they make no sense what so ever.), SO SCREW THEM! The rest I will accept. UPDATE! I just came up with these questions: Does Nintendo give a crap about them? Are they somebodies or nobodies? UPDATE! Apparently Nintendo doesn't give a crap about these Koopalings (or their fans)! Nintendo sees them as nobodies while we see them as somebodies! UPDATE! Who is/are the best Koopaling(s)? (You CAN say Bowser Jr. but I will punch you if you say that, even if you're just testing me. The Mario Party mini-bowsers are not a valid answer.)

Oh, and Squirtle. Just because they look different does NOT mean they aren't the same thing. they could have easily chosen to change their looks, the reason their shell colors changed and they now have rings around their spikes could just be puberty.
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Iggy is the best. Anyways, who said that Miamoto was allowed to come up with backstories anyways!
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I don't know. Maybe it would actually make the characters more interesting or something like that.

Squirtle said:
Iggy's hair color changed

And now his hair looks like three bananas
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What says he didn't want his hair to be like that?
 
New Year Baby Luigi said:
Why is he called BABY Mario!? Would you name your kid after yourself and put "baby" in front of it?
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Well? Obviously it was an example. Don't take it serious.
 
Dorayaki said:
New Year Baby Luigi said:
Why is he called BABY Mario!? Would you name your kid after yourself and put "baby" in front of it?
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Well? Obviously it was an example. Don't take it serious.
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I know it was an example. It was a terrible one
 
JohnRoberts said:
I don't even see how this is possible. The Koopalings still both look and act like Bowser's children. Either Nintendo is trying to make the Koopaling fans happy or Nintendo decided to make them the children of Bowser or they are related to him in another way.
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I don't even know why they retconned it in the first place. It looks like they're TRYING to get the fans angry
 
Baby Luigi said:
JohnRoberts said:
I don't even see how this is possible. The Koopalings still both look and act like Bowser's children. Either Nintendo is trying to make the Koopaling fans happy or Nintendo decided to make them the children of Bowser or they are related to him in another way.
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I don't even know why they retconned it in the first place. It looks like they're TRYING to get the fans angry
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Miyamoto is a successful troll then. Either that or he's just running out of ideas. Or maybe he just doesn't give a !@#$ about the Koopalings and he thinks it's all about the overrated Bowser Jr.
 
Champion Christmas said:
Why do you care though? Whether or not the koopalings are his children does not effect the gameplay at all.
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It brings down their character and makes the Koopa family less interesting and colorful. (Bowser and Jr. are waaaaaay too alike.) Also, this is going to affect Koopaling fanboys/fangirls who hate Bowser Jr. Also, this raises way too many questions and theories. (Some of which are down right retarded.) I will continue to think they are his kids no matter what Shiggy says for valid reasons.
 
JohnRoberts said:
Champion Christmas said:
Why do you care though? Whether or not the koopalings are his children does not effect the gameplay at all.
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It brings down their character and makes the Koopa family less interesting and colorful. (Bowser and Jr. are waaaaaay too alike.) Also, this is going to affect Koopaling fanboys/fangirls who hate Bowser Jr. Also, this raises way too many questions and theories. (Some of which are down right retarded.) I will continue to think they are his kids no matter what Shiggy says for valid reasons.
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>Implying that the koopalings were interesting to begin with
 
Champion Christmas said:
JohnRoberts said:
Champion Christmas said:
Why do you care though? Whether or not the koopalings are his children does not effect the gameplay at all.
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It brings down their character and makes the Koopa family less interesting and colorful. (Bowser and Jr. are waaaaaay too alike.) Also, this is going to affect Koopaling fanboys/fangirls who hate Bowser Jr. Also, this raises way too many questions and theories. (Some of which are down right retarded.) I will continue to think they are his kids no matter what Shiggy says for valid reasons.
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>Implying that the koopalings were interesting to begin with
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>Implying that the koopalings have the potential to be interesting
 
KoopaGuy said:
Champion Christmas said:
Why do you care though? Whether or not the koopalings are his children does not effect the gameplay at all.
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It brings down their character and makes the Koopa family less interesting and colorful. (Bowser and Jr. are waaaaaay too alike.) Also, this is going to affect Koopaling fanboys/fangirls who hate Bowser Jr. Also, this raises way too many questions and theories. (Some of which are down right retarded.) I will continue to think they are his kids no matter what Shiggy says for valid reasons.
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That still doesn't affect actual gameplay though
 
KoopaGuy said:
I don't even see how this is possible. The Koopalings still both look and act like Bowser's children. Either Nintendo is trying to make the Koopaling fans happy or Nintendo decided to make them the children of Bowser or they are related to him in another way.

Champion Christmas said:
Why do you care though? Whether or not the koopalings are his children does not effect the gameplay at all.
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It brings down their character and makes the Koopa family less interesting and colorful. (Bowser and Jr. are waaaaaay too alike.) Also, this is going to affect Koopaling fanboys/fangirls who hate Bowser Jr. Also, this raises way too many questions and theories. ( lik of which are down right retarded.) I will continue to think they are his kids no matter what Shiggy says for valid reasons.
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I don't think you have to regard them as a blood-related family, because they were just meant to be in the same troop/famia no matter they're siblings or not. In my knowings, lots of Mario species have identical/generic looks.

In face of other main characters, DK's members and the erased TV show, the staff just don't really regard family stories as part of Mario series. Having an ideal story doesn't mean you have to impose on the staff.
For example, I like Peach to be with Mario, but we all know romance isn't for Mario series.
 
Dorayaki said:
For example, I like Peach to be with Mario, but we all know romance isn't for Mario series.
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Except in promotional art:

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Personally, I don't agree with the idea that having any sort of plot would necessarily make the games less fun. Yeah, okay, they don't want the plot to overshadow their "pick up and play" games - but it doesn't have to. Like how Bowser has one son - he just... does. He could just have eight kids with no rhyme or reason too with no problem (it worked back when there were only seven in the SMB3 era), and Junior could still be the favourite and heir to the throne to keep him special - it's not gonna take piles of cutscenes, instruction booklet narration or promotional tie-ins to explain that. They don't even need to spell it out if they don't want to - and they could have left the entire Koopaling situation up in the air too, really.

One of the things that I've always liked about the Mario series was that kinda ambiguity - it left room to come up with your own ideas. It made it a puzzle, and sparked the imagination. Wanting to keep the platformers straightforward and frivolously fun is fine, but don't go so far as to troll the fans by denying what few ideas are already kicking around (or by stripping plot from the genres that actually do benefit from interesting stories *cough*PMSS*cough*).
 
Brony the 45th Nazgul of the great Sith Lords said:
KoopaGuy said:
Champion Christmas said:
Why do you care though? Whether or not the koopalings are his children does not effect the gameplay at all.
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It brings down their character and makes the Koopa family less interesting and colorful. (Bowser and Jr. are waaaaaay too alike.) Also, this is going to affect Koopaling fanboys/fangirls who hate Bowser Jr. Also, this raises way too many questions and theories. (Some of which are down right retarded.) I will continue to think they are his kids no matter what Shiggy says for valid reasons.
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That still doesn't affect actual gameplay though
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So what? I still think that Bowser Jr. is an unoriginal character who is way overrated (but I'll give him this, he is a well developed character and I like his relationship with Bowser and the Koopalings), the Koopalings have the potential to be great characters (which is the basic reason I even like them in the first place) but Nintendo won't use them like they should be used, the fanboys and fangirls of Koopalings overreact too much, I don't understand the Bowser Jr. fanboys and fangirls. There you have it, my honest opinion on the whole Koopalings and Bowser Jr. thing. If you have a problem with my opinions, then don't spam some sort of annoying comment forcing your opinion down my throat.
 
I'm talking about actual gameplay,for example,if Nintendo announced that Wario was Peach's father,it wouldn't affect gameplay.Fanbase and all that would,but not gameplay.
 
Ok then, stop complaining about Peach being kidnapped since it doesn't affect gameplay.

Look, gameplay is only PART of a game. Sure it's the meat and potatoes of the game, but it's not a complete meal.
 
Games with excellent gameplay<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Games with excellent gameplay, graphics, and story
 
Baby Luigi said:
Ok then, stop complaining about Peach being kidnapped since it doesn't affect gameplay.

Look, gameplay is only PART of a game. Sure it's the meat and potatoes of the game, but it's not a complete meal.
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I know that,all I was saying is that the koopalings not being Bowser's children really doesn't affect gameplay.
 
KoopaGuy said:
So what? I still think that Bowser Jr. is an unoriginal character who is way overrated (but I'll give him this, he is a well developed character and I like his relationship with Bowser and the Koopalings), the Koopalings have the potential to be great characters.
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I do say the staff overrated BowserJr. abit in face of other main characters, like the rosters, but not Koopalings who were not arranged to be the main characters and absent for so many years. Being a big team is no doubt an obstacle for them to be main characters.
Also, when going plotwise it's hard to put Koopalings together in face of the "mother mystery" (unless they're septuplets).

Gameplay isn't the whole thing. Some story settings could change the gameplay (eg, more playable heros), or bugs of the formula. But for Koopalings being children, it's not in both cases.
 
Dorayaki said:
KoopaGuy said:
So what? I still think that Bowser Jr. is an unoriginal character who is way overrated (but I'll give him this, he is a well developed character and I like his relationship with Bowser and the Koopalings), the Koopalings have the potential to be great characters.
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I do say the staff overrated BowserJr. abit in face of other main characters, like the rosters, but not Koopalings who were not arranged to be the main characters and absent for so many years. Being a big team is no doubt an obstacle for them to be main characters.
Also, when going plotwise it's hard to put Koopalings together in face of the "mother mystery" (unless they're septuplets).

Gameplay isn't the whole thing. Some story settings could change the gameplay (eg, more playable heros), or bugs of the formula. But for Koopalings being children, it's not in both cases.
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You know, the Koopalings sure seem to have alot of attention despite not being main characters. If you ask me, they have enough potential to be common in other games besides the main series. I also do not see any reason to why the Koopalings should be below Bowser Jr. seeing how they are more powerful. With the Koopalings, it takes three hits with a star and with Jr., it only takes one hit. I think the only reason Jr. ranks above them is because Shiggy decided that Bowser only had one son, and that was Bowser Jr. himself. Heck, maybe that's the only reason those Koopalings are no longer Bowser's children.
 
KoopaGuy said:
I still think that Bowser Jr. is an unoriginal character who is way overrated (but I'll give him this, he is a well developed character and I like his relationship with Bowser and the Koopalings)
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does not compute
 
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