Super Smash Bros. for Wii U & 3DS Discussion

[Anser]

Mewtwo and Lucas were my mains in Melee and Brawl respectively. To see them cut at the beginning crushed me, and to see them returning together was a dream come true. I couldn't be happier.

Edit: Wait a second, WTF!! Who edited my avatar?! I was going to put that image but I didn't do it!!

 

[Glitchy Bowser Jr.]

EPHRAIM FOR SMASH

 

[Lumastar]

I'm glad that Lucas is coming back! I just feel bad that Sakurai has to continue to work.

Also, Vote: King K. Rool.

 

[GalacticPetey]

No matter what you do, we will always come crawling back.

 

[yoshi123]

welp time to go spam votes for wolf

I shall do the same. He's character that has a different playstyle from the other 2 Starfox reps (so no, they ain't even semi-clones and Starfox really doesn't deserve to lose one) and I feel his major issues would be resolved with the new game mechanics; chaingrabs aren't a thing nor is edgehogging, along with the fact he's likely to have a more lenient area to grab the ledge. I love his dialogue and taunts too, and he's one of my favorite characters to verse. <3

"We're gonna have fun with this thing." (And I'm referring to the ballot there. )

On another note...

So I thought someone was trying to play with my heart on this day when I heard Lucas was back in. And I'm SERIOUSLY disgraced by Ness' Lucas customs (HOW IS A MOVE MORE SITUATIONAL AND WORSE THAN PK FLASH, JUST HOW. That's saying something cause Flash is actually decent this game lol).

Then I heard the beautiful Love Theme Remix and I heard his voice again. I started crying a river because the very first newcomer I played in Brawl AND one of my favorite match-ups is finally back in. I shall have 3 mains now. I guess... LOVE IS MEANT TO BE.

ALSO PLEASE BRING THE NATURAL KILLER CYBORG MUSIC IN WITH THE RETURN OF LUCAS ASDFGHJKL

Spoiler: And before people start saying "OMG SAKURAI YOU WASTED DLC ON A CLONE"

[Excuse this tangent of a rant but when I see that statement, especially now I CRINGE.]

Saying Ness & Lucas are clones is like trying to call a knife and a scissor the same thing. Semi-clones is still inaccurate b/c they literally only share like 6-7 moves (U-air, F-Smash, the specials and possibly the Final Smash cause it wasn't shown here). Now, of those moves, how many of those are ONLY a Speed vs. power difference? That's U-Air, PK Flash/Freeze and F-Smash (Lucas has faster speed). The specials are similar, and some even share the same purpose, but not the same and are different enough.

Lucas' PK Fire always goes perfectly sideways and pushes the opponent away; his way of spacing. Ness' PK Fire traps and goes diagonally downward when used in midair; for a setup.

Lucas' PKT is slower, but goes through hurtboxes for the whole duration of the move, can control with less need for room he's launched faster and hits several times along with gaining more distance (and let us hope he can do the PKT2 rebound). Ness' PKT disappears after the initial frames when he hits something, requires more room to turn and gets an EXTREMELY powerful blow when he hits something, but distance gets reduced for him.

I don't know how the Magnet is gonna be this game for Lucas, b/c Ness' got improved in everyway (at least when I compare it to his Magnet custom) - Ness has less lag and more healing power. I'm taking it that Lucas' would actually KO like it could in Brawl... Don't know if they'd make the healing on his even more compared to Ness considering he heals 1.6x the damage (but with a 30% cap). o.o

And Flash/Freeze is indeed a Power/Speed difference, but the Freeze can allow some neat follow-ups with Lucas (possibly a Nair or a PKT2) while Flash just outright KOs. They're also good at eating shields away.

If you still think so, then I guess "Robin & Ness are clones cause they have magic attacks and can use Electric & Fire attacks and EL FIRE IS TOO SIMILAR TO PK FIRE".

 

[YoshiGo99]

Mewtwo and Lucas were my mains in Melee and Brawl respectively. To see them cut at the beginning crushed me, and to see them returning together was a dream come true. I couldn't be happier.

Edit: Wait a second, WTF!! Who edited my avatar?! I was going to put that image but I didn't do it!!

If it was from the wiki, someone uploaded a new version of the Mewtwo art.

 

[Lumastar]

Mewtwo and Lucas were my mains in Melee and Brawl respectively. To see them cut at the beginning crushed me, and to see them returning together was a dream come true. I couldn't be happier.

Edit: Wait a second, WTF!! Who edited my avatar?! I was going to put that image but I didn't do it!!

If it was from the wiki, someone uploaded a new version of the Mewtwo art.

Shouldn't we have the old art as well?

 

[Nysic]

welp time to go spam votes for wolf

I shall do the same. He's character that has a different playstyle from the other 2 Starfox reps (so no, they ain't even semi-clones and Starfox really doesn't deserve to lose one) and I feel his major issues would be resolved with the new game mechanics; chaingrabs aren't a thing nor is edgehogging, along with the fact he's likely to have a more lenient area to grab the ledge. I love his dialogue and taunts too, and he's one of my favorite characters to verse. <3

this guy gets it

 

[Smashley]

I didn't vote for Wolf but I'd be in full support of his return, like Lucas I would have preferred if he wasn't cut in the first place.

 

[Stargazing]

I don't know who to vote for...

 

[Lumastar]

I don't know who to vote for...

You don't have to vote now.

 

[EctoBiologist]

I also voted for REGGIE AND IWATA.

 

[Lumastar]

I also voted for REGGIE AND IWATA.

What was your description like?

 

[EctoBiologist]

I also voted for REGGIE AND IWATA.

What was your description like?

Please include them in smash because these two as playable characters being playable without Miis would cause an uproar of everyone's bodies not being ready for this. Please understand.

coulda have done better

 

[Lumastar]

I think I maxed out the limit with my King K. Rool description. I start by admitting to knowing that he's not "relevant", but then I go on about his importance to the Donkey Kong series, how he is quite beloved by many fans, and how awesome he would be as a Smash fighter. I even mention his costumes and the Blunderbuss just to get the ideas rolling.

 

[Crackin355]

Did anybody see Pikachu doing a backwards crawl towards Mewtwo at the end of his trailer.

Highlight of the direct right there.

 

[Lumastar]

Yeah. You know how it goes: if it's Pokémon-related, there's a good chance Pikachu will be a shoo-in.

 

[supermariofan]

Voted for K. Rool

 

[Icemario]

Tempted to try and main Lucas when he comes out

>>>>spamming votes

Ugh, lame.

That said, I'm voting for Isaac (Golden Sun), personally. He'd be good to see return after his disappearance as an Assist Trophy.

 

[Lumastar]

I just noticed that Mewtwo's artwork is a reference to its Melee artwork. That's pretty cool, actually.

 

[Magikrazy]

Whoever's not voting for Cranky Kong I hate you.

 

[Baby Mario Bloops]

I ended up voting for Impa, because I do want to see some new Zelda characters.

Plus, I have a feeling that any requests for them, Ridley, Ghirahim, Dillon, and any other characters already in the game as bosses/assist Trophies will not happen. Or else I would have voted Midna.

 

[GBA]

Probably going to waste my first vote and nominate Ashley. if i get bored I might submit one for Marshall and/or Chorus Kids as well

can't wait for 'due to a large number of rigged votes for Lanky Kong, we have permanently closed the poll. Please understand."

 

[Stargazing]

can't wait for 'due to a large number of rigged votes for Lanky Kong, we have permanently closed the poll. Please understand."

 

[Anser]

Something that concerns me about the whole poll thing is that they will keep on adding characters, which means only one thing: Sakurai is still going to work. The poor guy is ill, remember? He developed calcific tendinitis. I hate him but I don't want him to be permanently injured or anything. He really needs a long break (hopefully he'll retire).