Super Smash Bros. for Wii U & 3DS Discussion

[LeftyGreenMario]

Melee mechanics didn't exactly help Roy out that much. Between him and Marth when the latter can do this:

It's no contest.

Cause c'mon, unless Marth is canonically a Jedi. This is ridiculous.

I'd like to say it's just that Yoshi's grab is horrible.

 

[SonicMario]

I'd like to say it's just that Yoshi's grab is horrible.

Still you'd think the character with the tongue length in their grab would have that kind range. Not the swordsman that the only explanation for his long range grab is Melee Marth learned how to use the force.

Just saying with stuff like that and the gif of Roy's sword completely missing that Groden posting. Melee's balance wasn't exactly perfect.

 

[Cirdec]

Melee had terrible balance. Some characters like Bowser, Mewtwo and Pichu are impossible to win with.
While Smash 4 has the double amount of characters with better balance.

 

[Crypt Raider]

Melee mechanics didn't exactly help Roy out that much. Between him and Marth when the latter can do this:

Looked this up out of curiosity,

Spoiler

Roy has the same grab range. I think his main problem is he can't actually combo with his alternate sweespots because, you know, knocking people away sends them farther away from the sword's hilt than the tip. Not to mention he's a fastfaller, so he has a hard time chasing people in the air and his otherwise similar recovery is made inherently worse.

Project M handles Roy a lot better to the point where he is considered pretty high tier, but I digress.

 

[LeftyGreenMario]

I'd like to say it's just that Yoshi's grab is horrible.

Still you'd think the character with the tongue length in their grab would have that kind range. Not the swordsman that the only explanation for his long range grab is Melee Marth learned how to use the force.

Just saying with stuff like that and the gif of Roy's sword completely missing that Groden posting. Melee's balance wasn't exactly perfect.

Oh, no, I'm not saying Melee is the most balanced game by any stretch. Yoshi's grab is still terrible though, and it doesn't help him with his shield options.

Roy is pret-ty bad in Melee as well, but I agree with Groden; it's not his grab range, but mostly his sword mechanics and his physics.

 

[Ray Trace]

Melee had terrible balance. Some characters like Bowser, Mewtwo and Pichu are impossible to win with.

kirby and ness too, they're awful characters

 

[LeftyGreenMario]

No, we have Mr. Game & Watch, Bowser, Kirby, Ness, Pichu, Mewtwo, and Zelda: they're all indisputably bad characters, and that's a fact.

 

[GalacticPetey]

Red and Black arrows.

Jean Valjean confirmed

 

[LeftyGreenMario]

Playable Virtual Boy?

 

[Nysic]

deadpool dlc confirmed

 

[Tyrell Badd]

I'm going to main Shadow the Hedgehog.

 

[Zae]

I'm going to main Shadow the Hedgehog.

ow the edgeguarding

 

[supermariofan]

Wonder Red from Wonderful 101 confirmed

 

[Glitchy Bowser Jr.]

Given the status of Marth and Lucina, I don't have too high hopes for Roy in terms of viability.

yfw roy is same thing as marth but with lower landing lag on aerials and is "balanced" with a weaker neutral b

Then I'll pick up Roy.

Even better, they just straight up release Melee Marth as his own character.

Does he have his Melee design?

 

[GBA]

Spoiler: real leak, possibly major spoilers for the smash announcement tomorrow

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1062189

and they're confirmed (and apparently coming in the next update with Lucas holy fucking shit)

ugh i'm pissed that i checked gaf and spoiled myself :/

 

[Tyrell Badd]

Namco is really fucking terrible at trying to not spoil things, huh?

Also, I'm going to barf.

 

[Cirdec]

Didn't click the link for not being spoiled, but then I go on youtube and just see a GameXplain video where the title complety spoils it.

 

[YuruNex]

leakspin

anywho, i'm not even gonna bother looking at the leak this time, as i at least want SOME surprise, even if it's not much.

 

[GBA]

ugh the worst part about this is that now everywhere will be covering it by tomorrow

 

[YuruNex]

well at least we put it in spoilers, unlike a lot of websites from my guess

 

[GBA]

Spoiler: more spoilers

apparently there's also RHYTHM HEAVEN MUSIC COMING YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

monkey watch (meh) and blue birds (ok i guess). not dreams of our generation, love lab, or karate man but i'll take it

 

[Crackin355]

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These are just the classic ending stuff right? I'm sure there'll be a trailer in the direct

We already knew they were coming didn't we, I thought that's what the file names thing was about. I guess I can understand being upset about seeing these before watching the direct but I'm not really feeling it lol. I'm looking forward to whatever trailer they create for the both of them though. I like Roy's outfit, looks nice. I always liked his fe:a DLC artwork. Ryu looks cool too.

Is this all Wii U stuff or is any of this 3DS stuff too.

 

[GBA]

Spoiler

Is this all Wii U stuff or is any of this 3DS stuff too.

Spoiler

it seems it's for both, but most people care about the stuff that's on the wii u version because it appears to contain stuff for the 3ds version as well (dream land 64, for instance)

 

[Crackin355]

Spoiler

Is this all Wii U stuff or is any of this 3DS stuff too.

Spoiler

it seems it's for both, but most people care about the stuff that's on the wii u version because it appears to contain stuff for the 3ds version as well (dream land 64, for instance)

Spoiler

Neato, Dreamland 64 is a great stage. Well now I can pick between four stages whenever I'm playing with others.

 

[GBA]

Spoiler

the saddest part of this update -

no guile's theme for ryu's stage