Sexual Orientation

Homosexuality is as much as a fetish as heterosexuality is. They're about the same thing except a single gendered couple instead of a man or a woman. I mean I wouldn't call my attraction to no one an anti-fetish.

Again, I learned about homosexuality and how it isn't as troubling as the overly paranoid people think because of education. That is more of a problem than a petty debate about whether to allow same sex marriages or not.
 
Baby Luigi said:
Homosexuality is as much as a fetish as heterosexuality is. They're about the same thing except a single gendered couple instead of a man or a woman. I mean I wouldn't call my attraction to no one an anti-fetish.

Again, I learned about homosexuality and how it isn't as troubling as the overly paranoid people think because of education. That is more of a problem than a petty debate about whether to allow same sex marriages or not.
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oh okay, clears some things up at least.
 
Baby Luigi said:
It sucks that too many people in my country don't understand that sexuality isn't a choice.
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I'm going to try and word this as best as possible, but I'd like a response from people who are actually homosexual, or at least very knowledgeable about it.

To start: I'm not homophobic in the slightest, I completely support gays, but this statement has always bothered, how exactly, isn't it a choice? I mean, life is pretty much all choices, I mean very little is predefined so how exactly is sexuality a choice? Dont kill me


Also what BMB says pretty much explains why people don't like it. It strays from what people know, and it simply baffles them that it is possible. Not counting religious shit of course.
 
Well again I have a sexuality that isn't the norm (straight) and I certainly didn't choose it. It's just that nothing turns me on. Nothing in the slightest. But I guess I shouldn't be responding to your post...so yeah I'll let the homosexuals speak for themselves.

But I thought, if homosexuality WAS a choice, I wonder why people would want to be an oppressed minor group with debatable rights to marriage?
 
Gomamon said:
because i cant control what kinds of situations i find arousing

i mean, could you just start being gay if you had to?
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well it is a fetish.

I mean its not like you can just say NOPE and suddenly throw it away or just suddenly trigger it because you want to
 
Not to offend anyone in any way possible, and this is just my opinion, so please don't take any offense at all, but...

I feel that heterosexuality and homosexuality is not a nature type thing where you are born straight or gay. I mean, I think that there are just characteristics in people that let them figure out what their sexuality is, and I think that people trying to change what their sexuality is is like changing themselves inside as well, but I don't think that is like a gene that is transferred down generation to generation. Like, I don't think it's just a "choice" either like how people make choices day-to-day, but as more of a subconcious decision. It's not genetics, but I'm not sure if it's nurture either...

And yes, I'm a religious person and everything, but I really don't judge people because they don't believe in the same thing as I think, just as people don't have the same tendencies as I do. Honestly, I have no problem what people believe in because it's not my life, and it's not my duty to run it. Doesn't mean I have to agree with it, but I mean really, just because it's different it shouldn't be looked upon as though it is bad.

One of the big things that people don't like homosexuality is because some of the more flamboyant people. I know that it can be hard to picture homosexuals when one of the few I know is like the stereotypical version of what many people picture them as. (I'm not lying; he literally is almost a bad reflection of homosexuality just because of his personality) Nothing separates homosexuality and heterosexuality other than intimidate relationships, and most of that is behind the doors. Sexuality is not defined by how a person's personality is, whether it be flamboyant, feminine (masculine if we are talking about females), or basically not what the stereotypical guy is.

I'm sorry; I really hope that I'm not barking up the wrong tree here. I really should stay away from deep discussions.
 
cryoAwakening said:
I know that it can be hard to picture homosexuals when one of the few I know is like the stereotypical version of what many people picture them as.
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you just picture a straight person

we actually look identical

(the looking identical includes your acquaintance. straight guys who act or dress femininely and straight girls who act or dress masculinely also exist)
 
Gomamon said:
cryoAwakening said:
I know that it can be hard to picture homosexuals when one of the few I know is like the stereotypical version of what many people picture them as.
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you just picture a straight person

we actually look identical

(the looking identical includes your acquaintance. straight guys who act or dress femininely and straight girls who act or dress masculinely also exist)
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Well, nothing seperates us physically, which is the point.

I meant how people act. And when I said the "feminine for guys and masculine for girls" was some people's opinion of homosexuality.
 
I act pretty masculine for a girl. Oh look I'm not lesbian. So much against that stupid stereotype.
 
Baby Luigi said:
I act pretty masculine for a girl. Oh look I'm not lesbian. So much against that stupid stereotype.
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well thats what stereotypes are; stupid.
 
Gomamon said:
cryoAwakening said:
I know that it can be hard to picture homosexuals when one of the few I know is like the stereotypical version of what many people picture them as.
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you just picture a straight person

we actually look identical

[/b](the looking identical includes your acquaintance. straight guys who act or dress femininely and straight girls who act or dress masculinely also exist)[/b]
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I love those people.
 
Tentomon said:
To start: I'm not homophobic in the slightest, I completely support gays, but this statement has always bothered, how exactly, isn't it a choice? I mean, life is pretty much all choices, I mean very little is predefined so how exactly is sexuality a choice?
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When did you decide to be heterosexual?

cryoAwakening said:
I feel that heterosexuality and homosexuality is not a nature type thing where you are born straight or gay. I mean, I think that there are just characteristics in people that let them figure out what their sexuality is, and I think that people trying to change what their sexuality is is like changing themselves inside as well, but I don't think that is like a gene that is transferred down generation to generation. Like, I don't think it's just a "choice" either like how people make choices day-to-day, but as more of a subconcious decision. It's not genetics, but I'm not sure if it's nurture either...
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Thinking negatively of a homosexual man if this was true is like hating some dude because he likes the color pink more than blue. His brain was probably more attracted to it and he might've had some kind of outside influence, like had a pink toy when he was really young, but why the hell does that matter? Sure, it's different than most, but it is in no way significant to you.
 
Groden said:
cryoAwakening said:
I feel that heterosexuality and homosexuality is not a nature type thing where you are born straight or gay. I mean, I think that there are just characteristics in people that let them figure out what their sexuality is, and I think that people trying to change what their sexuality is is like changing themselves inside as well, but I don't think that is like a gene that is transferred down generation to generation. Like, I don't think it's just a "choice" either like how people make choices day-to-day, but as more of a subconcious decision. It's not genetics, but I'm not sure if it's nurture either...
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Thinking negatively of a homosexual man if this was true is like hating some dude because he likes the color pink more than blue. His brain was probably more attracted to it and he might've had some kind of outside influence, like had a pink toy when he was really young, but why the hell does that matter? Sure, it's different than most, but it is in no way significant to you.
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Exactly; I don't see why people would hate people for something like this, choice or no choice.

BTW, I really do hope that you are reading this as me being open about all of this. I'm no homophobic.
 
cryoAwakening said:
One of the big things that people don't like homosexuality is because some of the more flamboyant people. I know that it can be hard to picture homosexuals when one of the few I know is like the stereotypical version of what many people picture them as. (I'm not lying; he literally is almost a bad reflection of homosexuality just because of his personality) Nothing separates homosexuality and heterosexuality other than intimidate relationships, and most of that is behind the doors. Sexuality is not defined by how a person's personality is, whether it be flamboyant, feminine (masculine if we are talking about females), or basically not what the stereotypical guy is.
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To elaborate here: I'm all for allowing people, both heterosexual and homosexual, to marry whoever they want. I too, however, agree that some of the flamboyant gay types are annoying. I don't mean flamboyant by wearing a lot of pink clothing or anything. I mean the types that go "oh look at me I'm gay, I have to be the center of attention all the time because I'm gay". It casts a poor shadow on pretty much all of the other homosexuals, and it's a shame because there are very few people that are like that but they're quite prominent. Hard to miss.

I think every person has the right to have feelings for whoever they want, but I don't need it to be shoved in my face. Just do your own thing and keep it between yourself and whoever you do said things with.
 
I dont have an orientation.
 
Ralph said:
cryoAwakening said:
One of the big things that people don't like homosexuality is because some of the more flamboyant people. I know that it can be hard to picture homosexuals when one of the few I know is like the stereotypical version of what many people picture them as. (I'm not lying; he literally is almost a bad reflection of homosexuality just because of his personality) Nothing separates homosexuality and heterosexuality other than intimidate relationships, and most of that is behind the doors. Sexuality is not defined by how a person's personality is, whether it be flamboyant, feminine (masculine if we are talking about females), or basically not what the stereotypical guy is.
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To elaborate here: I'm all for allowing people, both heterosexual and homosexual, to marry whoever they want. I too, however, agree that some of the flamboyant gay types are annoying. I don't mean flamboyant by wearing a lot of pink clothing or anything. I mean the types that go "oh look at me I'm gay, I have to be the center of attention all the time because I'm gay". It casts a poor shadow on pretty much all of the other homosexuals, and it's a shame because there are very few people that are like that but they're quite prominent. Hard to miss.

I think every person has the right to have feelings for whoever they want, but I don't need it to be shoved in my face. Just do your own thing and keep it between yourself and whoever you do said things with.
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Yeah, basically everything Ralph just said. It is sad that only a couple can reflect the whole opinion of some people's view on such a topic.
 
Let me rephrase; I have absolutely nothing against gays, and do not view them as inferior, but just think of them kind of differently. They're equal, of course, to straight people, but for instance if I knew someone and found out they were gay, I would be kinda shocked, but that's it, I wouldn't stop being friemds just becaus they're not straight.
So for the record, I have absolutely nothing with gays, it's just that I don't SUPPORT same-sex relationships.

So no, I'm not like certain peoople who are like OMG A GAY PPL and run away.

And Im sorry for causing such a riot, I used the term "homophobic" completely wrong.
 
"I have nothing against gays, but I still don't believe they should have the same rights as straight people because reasons."

so... you do have something against gays, then? Because if you didn't, you would be in full support of same-sex relationships.
 
i don't really understand homosexuality too much

but then again i don't really understand why my sister and mother think that the view from the Empire State Building and the building itself was boring and unimpressive

some people have a natural interest in architecture, and some don't and that's just the way things go

anyway i can't really think of a reason why it's so important for homosexuals and all other orientations to be "straight"
 
Gay people should definitely have the same rights. I hate how in some states same sex marriage is straight-up illegal.

I am extremely sorry if I offended anyone, it's just that I used the term "homophobic" wrong.
 
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