United States Presidential Election, 2012

Rudnicki knows how to change his IP, apparently, so an IP check doesn't help.
 
Dr. Javelin said:
Rudnicki knows how to change his IP, apparently, so an IP check doesn't help.
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What the hell? I'm the one being accused of being that nut? I read some of his first account's posts and I'm amazed that anyone could be either that crazy or stupid. And just because I join a month or so after his last sockpuppet was caught I'm suddenly suspected of being one of his? Is this even serious? It simply isn't true. Don't go witch-hunting innocents. He's a troll. It would probably make him happy to see people who aren't him get thrown off for "being him".
 
Post-Damage Invincibility said:
Red Barchetta said:
http://www.ricksantorum.com/news/2012/04/medias-delegate-math-wrong

If this is true, then the race isn't over just yet.
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It just goes to show that you can't trust ANYTHING the media says, be it CNN, MSNBC, ABC or FOX. All they do it lie, lie, lie, LIE! And much of their paychecks are predicated on how well they lie to you. There's a word for people who trust the media. Moron.
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Just so you know, dude, by acting and sounding like Rudnicki, you're not helping your case with the people who think you are him.
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No, if I acted like him, I'd be in a straight-jacket. I can't believe the men in the white coats haven't come for him because I only read two posts of his and know he is completely out to lunch. But anyway, I may be a liberal but the point I was making is that I don't think the news should be slanted any way. They should just report the news. Now no more of this shit, it isn't true, and you're making him a successful troll by accusing people who aren't him of being him. If you people want him to go away, don't troll feed. Don't say his name and don't talk about him. That's how you deal with all trolls.
 
He sockpuppets a lot and acts ridiculously overblown and pompous. His insults tend to be very over-the-top and he argues with people in a very confrontational manner. That sounds a lot like you just then.


Not saying you're Rudnicki, but I know there are people who think you are, and by acting like that you pretty much give them more reason to think so.
 
Post-Damage Invincibility said:
Dr. Javelin said:
Rudnicki knows how to change his IP, apparently, so an IP check doesn't help.
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Is this even serious?
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Did I (directly) accuse you of being Rudnicki? No I didn't.

I for one deplore the labeling of random users as Rudnicki, because although it's entirely possible, it bears too many similarities to McCarthyism in US history. In other words, the suspicion of everyone of possibly being Rudnicki.

Besides, even if you are Rudnicki, it doesn't change my perspective on your opinions or actions. All I'm judging are your words and actions.
 
Ah, I feel embarrassed now. :-[

Anything going in the race so far?
 
Not anything major.

Santorum is almost ready to go back to campaigning after taking the weekend off for the holiday, and after little Bella (his daughter with Trisomy 18) was taken to the hospital. Gingrich seems like he's ready to pull out before long as it seems Romney will be the nominee.

New polls in Indiana have Santorum winning the state by 1 point over Romney, 27% to 26%. A new poll in Texas by Rasmussen has Santorum in the lead by 5 points, but with 3 candidates in the margin of error - I believe Rick is at 30%, Romney at 25%, and Paul at 22% (with Gingrich tailing behind at 20%).

There's still two weeks left until the next contest so there's probably going to be little happening till then, except maybe an exit by Gingrich, but it's unlikely.
 
Do you guys think this election will be a close one? I hope Obama wins, though.
 
I don't know. I can't really think like a right winger but IMO, none of the current Republican candidates sound able to me, except for Ron Paul but he's not going to win the nomination unfortunately.
 
I don't think the race will be particularly close, but the scenario that would yield the closest results is most likely a Romney/Obama race.
 
La Marionette said:
Do you guys think this election will be a close one?
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Not unless someone besides Romney gets the nomination. Santorum is actually more likely than Romney imo as he seems like a legit conservative in comparison.

Obama will likely win against Romney since Romney lost to McCain who lost to Obama.
 
Dr. Javelin said:
La Marionette said:
Do you guys think this election will be a close one?
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Not unless someone besides Romney gets the nomination. Santorum is actually more likely than Romney imo as he seems like a legit conservative in comparison.

Obama will likely win against Romney since Romney lost to McCain who lost to Obama.
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I agree. Santorum seems like the most likely of the four candidates to be able to beat Obama - Gingrich might stand a chance because he'd literally destroy Obama in a debate, but it's obvious there's no way Gingrich has a chance at the nomination. I doubt Paul has a chance (as much as I admire the guy's enthusiasm). But Romney has no way of standing up to Obama.
 
Red Barchetta said:
Dr. Javelin said:
La Marionette said:
Do you guys think this election will be a close one?
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Not unless someone besides Romney gets the nomination. Santorum is actually more likely than Romney imo as he seems like a legit conservative in comparison.

Obama will likely win against Romney since Romney lost to McCain who lost to Obama.
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I agree. Santorum seems like the most likely of the four candidates to be able to beat Obama - Gingrich might stand a chance because he'd literally destroy Obama in a debate, but it's obvious there's no way Gingrich has a chance at the nomination. I doubt Paul has a chance (as much as I admire the guy's enthusiasm). But Romney has no way of standing up to Obama.
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LOL you really think the guy who wants to make contraception a major issue has a chance against Obama hell the guy can't win with anyone who isn't a hardcore Christian, Gingrich is also a joke candidate cause all Obama has to do is allow him to talk and his campaign will fall apart, Paul as much as I love him only appeals to young people who are notorious for not voting. The only one who has a chance is Roomney but even that's not possible because the republican parties filled with nuts who seem to think that the country wants a Real Conservative when in reality they don't they want a Moderate which is just what Obama is while Romney who was a moderate has moved into neo-conservative levels in order to get the nomination
 
Gingrich would slaughter Obama in a debate; debates have always been one of Gingrich's strong points.

I read some report about Santorum actually gaining some support from the "Reagan Democrats", so it actually DOES seem like he would be able to effectively oppose Obama. Like I said, Romney can't beat McCain. Who can't beat Obama.

Why does everyone think Romney would beat Obama...? A new candidate is the GOP's only option.
 
Dr. Javelin said:
Gingrich would slaughter Obama in a debate; debates have always been one of Gingrich's strong points.

I read some report about Santorum actually gaining some support from the "Reagan Democrats", so it actually DOES seem like he would be able to effectively oppose Obama. Like I said, Romney can't beat McCain. Who can't beat Obama.

Why does everyone think Romney would beat Obama...? A new candidate is the GOP's only option.
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Yes but Santorum doesn't get much support from moderates he's to conservative he cares to much about issues like abortion and contraception issues that aren't that important to most people, Yes Gingrich may win debates but you forget that there are only what 4 debates and he sucks at everything else. Romney is IMO the only legitimate opponent to Obama
 
Romney just doesn't have the energy, passion, or values that get people to rally to his cause. That's what's missing.
 
I find the issue of abortion and contraception pretty important. I would hate it if contraception and abortion are banned (although I never had to use them).

But when stacked against other issues, these issues above aren't top priority compared to the economy, foreign relations, and other stuff.
 
^Concerning foreign relations, can you blokes take your soldiers back? Please? I really don't see our need for them.
 
Dr. Javelin said:
Gingrich would slaughter Obama in a debate; debates have always been one of Gingrich's strong points.
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If by 'debates' you mean 'pulling bullshit about how Obama is an elitist commie who hates America out of his ass' then yes. I might like Gingrich more if he talked more about his economic policy and less about how liberals are trying to destroy the country. It's hard to feel any affection for someone who thinks that my belief system is an evil communist lie.

Red Barchetta said:
I agree. Santorum seems like the most likely of the four candidates to be able to beat Obama
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Uh... no. Santorum thinks that contraception should be illegal, so most women won't vote for him; he believes the government should enforce Christianity, so non-Christians won't vote for him; he said America was more Christian 200 years ago (y'know, when blacks were slaves) so black people won't vote for him; he hates welfare, so poor people won't vote for him. He thinks porn should be illegal, so there goes a ton of male voters. That leaves a few rich, white Christian men. They cannot win an election on their own.



Frankly, I can't say I see any outcome to this election other than America reluctantly giving Obama another four years- the sheer offensiveness of Gingrich's and Santorum's rhetoric ensures that no non-Christians or religiously tolerant Christians will vote for them, and Mitt Romney is so bland and hard to relate to that I can't see him pulling off more than 50% of America.

The main chance for Romney is that if Romney gets the nomination, independants and moderate liberals will be so indifferent (who to choose- the symbol of hope who failed them, or the bland, unlikable hypocrite?) that a lot of them won't vote at all, whereas the fervor of conservatives who think Obama is from Kenya could propel Romney to the white house.

If Santorum gets the nomination, though, Obama has already won.
 
Maybe the Republicans want Obama to be president. Why would they want to accept Bachmann, Perry, Palin, and Santorum in this party? ;)
 
I've heard that even Republicans today would probably think that Reagan is too far left in policy (but they cherish him for some reason).

The Republicans have gone way off the mark.
 
Yeah, I guess libertarianism would be too far left in the neoconservatives' agenda. I for one, though, think that a bigger government is the best way to protect people's rights.
 
And so this now signals the end of the competition for the Republican nomination.

Rick Santorum has announced that he is suspending his campaign.
 
Wait... what's going to happen now? I'm new to this.
 
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