United States Presidential Election, 2012

[Red Barchetta]

Sorry for the double post

They're allowed after three days, actually.

Oh, and I really hope that Romney doesn't just sweep these states because I'd much rather have Paul or Gingrich as the nominee.

Ah alright, thanks.

Romney has swept all 5 states today with hardly any competition whatsoever.

Romney won Delaware by a rather decent-sized margin, so we'll probably see an exit by Newt Gingrich in the next few days.

MAJOR UPDATE: Newt Gingrich has announced that he is to suspend his campaign on May 1st and will more than likely endorse Romney, leaving Romney and Paul as the only candidates left in the race for the Republican nomination.

 

[Dr. Javelin]

Lucky you, Scarecrow; Gingrich and Santorum are gone.

What would you like as a victory prize?

The only reason I would vote in this election (if I could) would be if Ron Paul beats Romney, which there is a 0.0001% chance of happening. I don't want to put Romney in office or beat Obama.

 

[Red Barchetta]

Lucky you, Scarecrow; Gingrich and Santorum are gone.

two of the candidates I liked the most (along with Huntsman) :[ i was a big Santorum supporter

But yeah, I really wish the nominee wouldn't be Romney. It's just that we have such a crappy president in office right now, and we're pitting a crappy Republican up against him, so we're stuck with shit no matter which way we go.

 

[Dr. Javelin]

Yup.

Which is why I wouldn't even bother voting.

Obama isn't that bad, actually; he's pretty moderate for a Democrat.

 

[Daniel Dyce]

Lucky you, Scarecrow; Gingrich and Santorum are gone.

two of the candidates I liked the most (along with Huntsman) :[ i was a big Santorum supporter

But yeah, I really wish the nominee wouldn't be Romney. It's just that we have such a crappy president in office right now, and we're pitting a crappy Republican up against him, so we're stuck with shit no matter which way we go.

No what you guys have is a Moderate making him an amazing candidate the problem is that the party is like "GUYS FUCK COMPROMISE" (Note this goes for both parties when they run primaries) forcing him to go more to the right which gives Obama plenty of momentum since he can move to the center while Mitt can't

 

[Dr. Javelin]

I'm okay with comprimise as long as it's not like he's caving to everything the otehr side wants.

coughromneycarecough

 

[Daniel Dyce]

This is just like the Republican Revolution of 94 a huge storm of Republicans come in angry as hell promising change. Then they get into office and proceed to accomplish nothing and only make their party look worse in the eyes of the public (note Democrats historically aren't effected by this trend)

 

[Dr. Javelin]

Um, I'm pretty sure Democrats got affected by that two years ago, when they had failed to accomplish much of anything since Obama was elected and that's why there's a Republican majority in the House now.

 

[Daniel Dyce]

I said historically they aren't effected by this. Also what happened (IMO) was that the American public is very very very dumb they don't understand
A: That an economy is a very complicated thing
B: That the President can't fix the economy
C: That switching majority parties every two years is a terrible system
D: Politicians lie
E: Balancing the budget will either require cuts to things like Social Security and Medicare or Increased Taxes
F: Having a split party Congress is terrible
G: See D

 

[Dr. Javelin]

I said historically they aren't effected by this. Also what happened (IMO) was that the American public is very very very dumb they don't understand
A: That an economy is a very complicated thing
B: That the President can't fix the economy
C: That switching majority parties every two years is a terrible system
D: Politicians lie
E: Balancing the budget will either require cuts to things like Social Security and Medicare or Increased Taxes
F: Having a split party Congress is terrible
G: See D

A. Of course.
B. Yup. Well, not by himself.
C. It could be worse, and we have yet to see whether the public will lean Democrat this election year.
D. You don't say.
E. Or we could cut most or all of our foreign aid, like most of the Republican candidates (notably Gingrich and Paul) proposed.
F. Actually, I would much rather have a split Congress than a all Democrat or all Republican one, because that way neither side can simply pass their own agendas and laws. Having to compromise may be difficult, but it's better than saying "HEY GUYS YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT WE SAY BECAUSE WE RULE CONGRESS RIGHT NOW".

 

[Daniel Dyce]

I said historically they aren't effected by this. Also what happened (IMO) was that the American public is very very very dumb they don't understand
A: That an economy is a very complicated thing
B: That the President can't fix the economy
C: That switching majority parties every two years is a terrible system
D: Politicians lie
E: Balancing the budget will either require cuts to things like Social Security and Medicare or Increased Taxes
F: Having a split party Congress is terrible
G: See D

A. Of course.
B. Yup. Well, not by himself.
C. It could be worse, and we have yet to see whether the public will lean Democrat this election year.
D. You don't say.
E. Or we could cut most or all of our foreign aid, like most of the Republican candidates (notably Gingrich and Paul) proposed.
F. Actually, I would much rather have a split Congress than a all Democrat or all Republican one, because that way neither side can simply pass their own agendas and laws. Having to compromise may be difficult, but it's better than saying "HEY GUYS YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT WE SAY BECAUSE WE RULE CONGRESS RIGHT NOW".

A: We agree
B: MY GOD WE AGREE TWICE
C: Great now that you've said it could be worse it will become worse
D: But I did Say
E: Isn't Social Security and Medicare like 66%+ of are budget/debt (side note you know what wont help cutting pork barrel projects which make up one side of the house)
F: The Problem with that is it's much harder to get things done since they don't agree (ESPECIALLY THIS TIME)

 

[Dr. Javelin]

E. Nah, most of our budget is military. We could cut a lot of that without growing weaker by pulling our troops and federal aid from a lot of places that really don't need it or want us there. And no, I'm not referring to Afganistan and Iraq, but whatever.
F. So, basically, what you're saying is

They should be made to agree.

That goes completely against the democratic system. Yes, we have to resolve problems and disputes. But that's certainly better than dictatorship by one party.

 

[Toad Eightyfive]

E. I'd personally make major cuts to the defense budget, seeing as Iraq is over, Afghanistan is winding down, and there seem to be no new wars on the horizon.

 

[Dr. Javelin]

E. I'd personally make major cuts to the defense budget, seeing as Iraq is over, Afghanistan is winding down, and there seem to be no new wars on the horizon.

China? North Korea? Both very real threats.

that said, we can still cut a lot of the budget by simply not fighting wars but also preparing for them at the same time

 

[Mario4Ever]

E. I'd personally make major cuts to the defense budget, seeing as Iraq is over, Afghanistan is winding down, and there seem to be no new wars on the horizon.

China? North Korea? Both very real threats.

that said, we can still cut a lot of the budget by simply not fighting wars but also preparing for them at the same time

Si vis pacem para bellum, right Mitt?

 

[ralphfan]

Why is Ron Paul even still in?

 

[Red Barchetta]

Obama isn't that bad, actually; he's pretty moderate for a Democrat.

It's just that he hasn't been doing a fantastic job as president - I don't think he's one of the worst presidents we've ever had, but he's certainly not a good one.

I have nothing against Obama, though. He seems like a great guy/husband/father personally.

Why is Ron Paul even still in?

Probably to at least get his message across to his supporters and I suppose the rest of the Republicans (like he did in 2008 where, like he'll probably do this election, stayed in till the very end of the race).

 

[Toad Eightyfive]

E. I'd personally make major cuts to the defense budget, seeing as Iraq is over, Afghanistan is winding down, and there seem to be no new wars on the horizon.

China? North Korea? Both very real threats.

that said, we can still cut a lot of the budget by simply not fighting wars but also preparing for them at the same time

Exactly. It's not like the Cold War, where we needed to constantly replenish our supply of bombs in case of a Russian attack. At this point in time, we can kind of afford to stand pat with what we have.

 

[LeftyGreenMario]

I don't want major spending cuts, but I do believe that we're spending a bit too much on military. A few trillion dollars on that field, I think.

 

[Scarecrow von Steuben]

i was a big Santorum supporter

Yes! Yes! FINALLY! A real-life Santorum supporter! I haven't been able to find any reasonable ones to talk to at all, but you're a cool guy and you seem reasonable enough! There are so many things I want to ask you! First of all, why?

Lucky you, Scarecrow; Gingrich and Santorum are gone.

What would you like as a victory prize?

I need no prize other than the tears of my enemies. Mwahahahaha!

 

[Dr. Javelin]

i couldn't help but laugh

Cheer up, Scarecrow. He's out and so is Gingrich.

 

[Scarecrow von Steuben]

i couldn't help but laugh

Cheer up, Scarecrow. He's out and so is Gingrich.

no i'm actually serious, i genuinely want to know why people who aren't deranged religious fanatics like him

as insulting as that sounds it's not meant to be

 

[Red Barchetta]

i was a big Santorum supporter

Yes! Yes! FINALLY! A real-life Santorum supporter! I haven't been able to find any reasonable ones to talk to at all, but you're a cool guy and you seem reasonable enough! There are so many things I want to ask you! First of all, why?

I just found Santorum to be the guy with the best ideas. I'll admit, the field for the Republican nomination this election was considerably weak (why we ever favored people like Michele Bachmann and Herman Cain in this race, I'll never know), but I just thought Santorum was the best of the field (followed along by Jon Huntsman, Jr.).

There was obviously stuff I disagreed with when it came to some of Santorum's stuff (mainly his view on homosexuality), but all the candidates obviously have their pros and cons, and I just saw Santorum as the best of the candidates. Disagree with that if you must, but that's my opinion.

 

[Scarecrow von Steuben]

that actually makes sense 8)

 

[Dr. Javelin]

that actually makes sense 8)

Did you just agree with something good...about Santorum?

Your euphoria in the triumph has gotten to you, no doubt.