The official bad movie thread

Baby Luigi said:
Shy​ Guy said:
This movie is awful.
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it's a masterpiece compared to most movies in this thread
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it's a masterpiece period
 
Nabber said:
the worst movie i have ever seen in recent memory was grown ups 2

god, that movie was utter garbage
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i agree

i know i called it "decent" when I first saw it but looking back at it, it was embarrassing. ive not seen much worse
 
Shy​ Guy said:
Zae Eildus said:
it's a masterpiece period
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sure looks boring as shit
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it is

fawfulthegreat just has nostalgia or something
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Well it was one of, if not my favorite film as a child. So I guess you could say it's nostalgia. But I don't see the flaws as really being that big of a deal either. Stanley is a lovable character and the film has great animation, great music, great voice acting, and (in my opinion) a decent story. The only really god-awful part of it was the random-ass ending.

I'm talking about New York being turned into a jungle. If that had been scrapped the movie would've been near-perfect IMO
 
to be frank, i have similar feelings for stanley as i have for barney the dinosaur
 
Well I never got the negative feelings towards Barney either. Just because one of the early actors was a pedophile, doesn't mean the character is. It's just a normal kid's show. And that scene with Stanley to me was just him being happy that a human likes him, if that's the scene you're referring to.
 
Most critics of the show say Barney and Friends is pretty one-dimensional, as in they never show any bad feelings, and everyone is happy, happy, happy.
 
I watched Barney as a young child, and I had no problem with how happy it was. But this one-dimensional argument is new to me, most arguments I've seen thus far involve him being a pedo.
 
Snawfulthemerry25 said:
Well I never got the negative feelings towards Barney either. Just because one of the early actors was a pedophile, doesn't mean the character is. It's just a normal kid's show. And that scene with Stanley to me was just him being happy that a human likes him, if that's the scene you're referring to.
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that's a new thing

well my argument is what magikrazy said: barney basically insults anyone's intelligences. and no, don't use the "show's not directed at me so i cant criticize it" argument; sesame street is an example of a show i highly recommend for small children.

and yes i watched barney as a small child. i was never a fan of him.
 
That's the key point. Just because a product is for kids, doesn;t mean it should be dumbed down. Something like Sesame Street, The Land Before Time, etc. These are examples of children's entertainment have substance to them, teach lessons, and is not just a bunch of loud screaming nonsense to distract children.

That's where something like Barney or A Troll in central Park falls short.
 
Snawfulthemerry25 said:
I watched Barney as a young child, and I had no problem with how happy it was. But this one-dimensional argument is new to me, most arguments I've seen thus far involve him being a pedo.
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Well, if even 1st graders take delight in drawing their favorite characters blow up Barney's head, I think Barney's the problem. My AP Psychology teacher made an off-handed comment like "You remember that singing dinosaur 'I love you, you love me,' whatever, someone shoot him..." and we students laughed.

In 4th or 5th grade, I remember my sister and her group made a song about killing Barney in the tune of Twinkle Twinkle Little Star, and again, most people pretty much laughed.

So yeah, just because Barney is for kids doesn't excuse that even kids hate him.
 
Well I don't think its right to hate a character that's not portrayed as annoying, controversial or evil. Which applies to both Barney and Stanley. And I saw a few Barney episodes as a kid that did entertain me and seemed to be nice for kids, such as Waiting for Santa (one of the Christmas ones)

I see the Barney hate the same way I see the people who think SpongeBob is gay. Same for A Troll in Central Park. It doesn't have to teach a lesson to be decent entertainment. And even so, I think people misinterpreted the message in A Troll in Central Park. "If you believe in yourself you can do anything" doesn't literally mean anything. It was a fictional fantasy story, after all, of course there will be stuff that can't happen in real life. The real message in the movie was follow your dreams. Never give up, believe in yourself. Which shouldn't be a controversy. To me the only negative aspects of it was the filler and the crap ending. (What Bluth was thinking, I don't know, but I blame the workers who left to work on a Disney movie)

With Barney, I admit I haven't watched it in ages so I have no idea what its like now, but when I was little my mother watched it with me and mind you she was picky about what to let me watch. She didn't find anything wrong with it. And I remember some episodes that taught preschool lessons like the alphabet and showed kids the world outside, there were some where they visited various famous cities. That's hardly junk.
 
Snawfulthemerry25 said:
Well I don't think its right to hate a character that's not portrayed as annoying, controversial or evil. Which applies to both Barney and Stanley. And I saw a few Barney episodes as a kid that did entertain me and seemed to be nice for kids, such as Waiting for Santa (one of the Christmas ones)

I see the Barney hate the same way I see the people who think SpongeBob is gay. Same for A Troll in Central Park. It doesn't have to teach a lesson to be decent entertainment. And even so, I think people misinterpreted the message in A Troll in Central Park. "If you believe in yourself you can do anything" doesn't literally mean anything. It was a fictional fantasy story, after all, of course there will be stuff that can't happen in real life. The real message in the movie was follow your dreams. Never give up, believe in yourself. Which shouldn't be a controversy. To me the only negative aspects of it was the filler and the crap ending. (What Bluth was thinking, I don't know, but I blame the workers who left to work on a Disney movie)

With Barney, I admit I haven't watched it in ages so I have no idea what its like now, but when I was little my mother watched it with me and mind you she was picky about what to let me watch. She didn't find anything wrong with it. And I remember some episodes that taught preschool lessons like the alphabet and showed kids the world outside, there were some where they visited various famous cities. That's hardly junk.
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People can hate Barney or Stanley if they want. It's called opinions.
 
Snawfulthemerry25 said:
Well I don't think its right to hate a character that's not portrayed as annoying, controversial or evil.
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you technically hate a character for teaching unrealistic morals which is what barney does. and yes, barney IS considered annoying by quite a few; the animaniacs even parodied him for crying out loud.

it's healthy to tell kids that yes there will be serious problems; moments that will make you face with a real problem. the best cartoons usually have those type of moments where the writers consider their audience intelligent and therefore add some uh "hardcore" themes to childrens' shows ans movies. this type of variety of emotions works and it makes it not only more enjoyable to children, but to adults as well, hence why some shows become well-liked (Sesame Street, Magic School Bus, Arthur) compared to stuff like Barney.
 
Snawfulthemerry25 said:
Well I don't think its right to hate a character that's not portrayed as annoying, controversial or evil. Which applies to both Barney and Stanley. And I saw a few Barney episodes as a kid that did entertain me and seemed to be nice for kids, such as Waiting for Santa (one of the Christmas ones)

I see the Barney hate the same way I see the people who think SpongeBob is gay. Same for A Troll in Central Park. It doesn't have to teach a lesson to be decent entertainment. And even so, I think people misinterpreted the message in A Troll in Central Park. "If you believe in yourself you can do anything" doesn't literally mean anything. It was a fictional fantasy story, after all, of course there will be stuff that can't happen in real life. The real message in the movie was follow your dreams. Never give up, believe in yourself. Which shouldn't be a controversy. To me the only negative aspects of it was the filler and the crap ending. (What Bluth was thinking, I don't know, but I blame the workers who left to work on a Disney movie)

With Barney, I admit I haven't watched it in ages so I have no idea what its like now, but when I was little my mother watched it with me and mind you she was picky about what to let me watch. She didn't find anything wrong with it. And I remember some episodes that taught preschool lessons like the alphabet and showed kids the world outside, there were some where they visited various famous cities. That's hardly junk.
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Is it okay that I hate Barney for being a creepy, fat, oafish, dopey, saccharine dinosaur? I can't stand his voice, his looks, his personality, his songs, his anything. He is kind of annoying to an extent, and I really hate the way he acts. Now, I haven't see Barney in such a long time, but the Animanaics parody of Barney is cool.

How is Barney hate the same vein as Spongebog being gay? I don't get the analogy. The problem with Troll in Central Park's apparent message is that it's too optimistic. I understand that stuff like "if you wish upon a star" might be taken as too optimistic too, but the point is that, what you said, is to never give up. I didn't watch the movie, but messages need to contain depth, and sometimes, believing in yourself sometimes is unrealistic, but it's those people's fault who take the message literally.

There's a spectrum ranging from so dark, it's inappropriate to way saccharine, and you need a balance between the two. Barney falls under saccharine, and it's pretty puke-worthy.
 
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