How would you make a Mario film?

Because video games aren't primarily a storytelling medium. Hollywood's habit of adapting anything and everything into a movie has convinced people that there could and should be, say, a Mario movie. But people forget that Hollywood adapts things for business reasons. If you took the Battleship movie and slapped any other name onto it, it wouldn't be a Battleship adaptation. But because it has the name, it stands to profit off of the board game.

Novels are a storytelling medium. Books, not necessarily. You can't, or at least you shouldn't, adapt a cookbook into a movie. No one would want to watch a faithful adaptation of How to Read Literature Like a Professor (please don't read this book. it's as bad as its title.).

Video games CAN be a storytelling medium, of course. But not usually. Usually the story is there to support the gameplay, because the developers want you to be focused on the gameplay. Nowadays story can be used to enhance that, to make gameplay feel more epic. And certainly there are games where the gameplay is used to enhance the story, but they're a minority.

And then you have stuff like The Stanley Parable. That game is an experiment of interaction. The whole game hinges on exploiting interaction. And movies don't have interaction. To make a movie of The Stanley Parable would ruin the very essence of The Stanley Parable. Can anyone really argue with me on this? What will you make the story about? The brainwashing of the employees? You could make a good movie from The Stanley Parable, one that does for movies what The Stanley Parable did for games, probably, if it's very well handled. But it wouldn't be The Stanley Parable.

I'm using that as a parable. Mario is not intended for screen. The cartoons are silly. The live action movie is just laughable. No one likes Mario for the story, we like Mario because he's fun. We enjoy jumping over pits and discovering secrets and fighting Bowser ourselves. But if you were to make a decent narrative out of Mario, it wouldn't be Mario. You can't have both.
 
Nabber said:
No one likes Mario for the story, we like Mario because he's fun.[...]You can't have both.
wat

Mario can be fun and have a decent story at the same time. Look at all the RPGs except that one.

Mcmadness said:
Chiaki Nanami said:
historic Mario tropes an ironic, self-aware twist (à la Super Paper Mario)

That game was just about the least self aware Mario game in the entire franchise.
It was more aware of the series it was in than its successor.
 
Nah. It more took everything recognizable and threw it out the window.


Anywho, it wouldn't be difficult to make a movie out of the basic Mario scenario. It just needs entertaining and likable personalities for the characters involved (especially the bros) whether its self aware or not. Some of the best fantasy movies usually don't have very complex scenarios, but make up for it with entertaining/memorable characters and interesting set pieces. Which Mario could easily do.
 
Oh, ok. My mistake, I remember now that Sticker Star has Clefts, Clubbas, Spanias, and Koopatrols in it.

oh wait

And I disagree, I think if they want to make a movie out of a series, they should take more assets from the ones that actually already have developed stories.
 
Yes because everybody recognizes......whatever the hell those things were in SPM.


And you just want to see your precious rpg characters in a movie, to which I say to hell with that.
 
Fawful said:
Nabber said:
No one likes Mario for the story, we like Mario because he's fun.[...]You can't have both.
wat

Mario can be fun and have a decent story at the same time. Look at all the RPGs except that one.
But those stories wouldn't be very interesting without the gameplay. They wouldn't hold your interest. They're simply not really that compelling on their own.
 
I have not read the rest of the thread.

First, I would not take anything directly from the games. 1. It's already been heard and 2. they're just not that good for a movie. Second, the characters would, well, be in character. Third, I would allude to different parts of the franchise, such as the RPGs and even one-offs such as Mario Paint. Fourth, this would not be a run-of-the-mill Bowser takes Peach story. I get that it would be harder to do, but I would actually like to see Bowser as some sort of hero or third-party instead.
 
Lumastar said:
I would actually like to see Bowser as some sort of hero or third-party instead.

I hate it already.
 
I'm pretty sure the Super Mario Kun manga was a good game to comic adaption as well. I'm sure they could make a good movie out of Mario.
 
This may sound stupid but for some bizarre reason I wonder what would happen if they had the personalities from the sports titles. It's a nifty way to get the personalities for people because lets be honest, the main series doesn't really have anything. The weird part is that I would find a sitcom more amusing than a feature length film
 
I would definitely hate that.

Bowser being beaten by a lowly minion who we've never seen before and will never see again? No thanks.
 
Fawful said:
Is there any story besides the normal rehashed-to-death one that you'd actually like?

Certainly. But I sure as hell wouldn't want that for their first REAL movie outing.

Lumastar said:
It could be Kamek or someone like that.

That wouldn't be any better since they'd be screwing up not 1 but 2 characters.
 
It would be dumb to make one of Bowser's established minions betray him.

But I wouldn't mind a plot in which Bowser Jr. is kidnapped by some new mastermind who aims to become the supreme commander of the multiverse, and Bowser Jr. happens to be a chosen one of legend, similarly to Luigi in SPM. Bowser is forced to join Mario because he loves his son more than he hates Mario.
 
Fawful said:
It would be dumb to make one of Bowser's established minions betray him.

But I wouldn't mind a plot in which Bowser Jr. is kidnapped by some new mastermind who aims to become the supreme commander of the multiverse, and Bowser Jr. happens to be a chosen one of legend, similarly to Luigi in SPM. Bowser is forced to join Mario because he loves his son more than he hates Mario.

So SPM. But more *bleep*.
 
Mcmadness said:
Fawful said:
It would be dumb to make one of Bowser's established minions betray him.

But I wouldn't mind a plot in which Bowser Jr. is kidnapped by some new mastermind who aims to become the supreme commander of the multiverse, and Bowser Jr. happens to be a chosen one of legend, similarly to Luigi in SPM. Bowser is forced to join Mario because he loves his son more than he hates Mario.

So SPM. But more *bleep*.
Just a question, and it's kinda off topic but would you have enjoyed SPM more if Bowser had been the main villain of it? Say he and Dimentio's roles were switched and Bowser becomes the mastermind plotting to overthrow Count Bleck, thus giving him a more evil role while Dimentio is an anti-hero who joins you similar to Geno/Mallow from SMRPG.

Anyway this would portray the characters more in line with their normal personalities (Bowser would be portrayed more like in BIS/DT, etc)
 
A trilogy would work fine, I think.

The first would be the classic Super Mario Bros story. The second would be Super Mario 64 (the different worlds Mario travels through could be interesting). The third would be Superstar Saga, so as to mix things up a little.
 
That would have helped but I'd still hate the overall tone of the game and all its unappealing OCs.
 
Fawful said:
Bowser Jr. happens to be a chosen one of legend, similarly to Luigi in SPM.

This made me mentally throw up
 
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