Paper Mario: Color Splash
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I'd rather they do Kirby and Yoshi together. They both peddled in arts and crafts before. But it wouldn't hurt to have Paper Mario be there either. Would be interesting, to say the least.
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I cringed for every generic Toad I saw in that trailer haha xD
I wonder how many more years until Miyamoto's rule of "no story and no original characters allowed in Mario RPGs" wears off ( https://www.reddit.com/r/Mario/comments/4b718m/regarding_original_characters_and_story_in_mario/ ). I'll start caring about Mario RPGs again when Story and Original Characters return. Gosh I hate paper Toads now xD
I wonder how many more years until Miyamoto's rule of "no story and no original characters allowed in Mario RPGs" wears off ( https://www.reddit.com/r/Mario/comments/4b718m/regarding_original_characters_and_story_in_mario/ ). I'll start caring about Mario RPGs again when Story and Original Characters return. Gosh I hate paper Toads now xD
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i don't think the forbidden use of original characters will produce only toads as a result
look at what mario party did, they made not only toads friendly, but penguins, mr i's, ukikis, boos, whittles, piantas, etc friendly as well
look at what mario party did, they made not only toads friendly, but penguins, mr i's, ukikis, boos, whittles, piantas, etc friendly as well
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Mister Wu said:
When I was 11/12 and hyped for Mario Galaxy in 07, I recall being so dissapointed that Tatanga wasn't in the game. With the space sci fi setting, it would have been the perfect opportunity for him to come back. Same with Galaxy 2.
If there is a Mario Galaxy 3, I hope Tatanga and the Shroobs (they won't be, since OCs are forbidden now) are in it. They might as well make use of established alien characters if its going to be a space setting.
To be honest, SM3DW added quite a bit of new characters, the Sprixie and their Princesses, all bosses save for Boom Boom, Pom Pom and Bowser, many enemies. Gobblegut, Fluzzard, Whittles and Fizzlits were introduced in SMG2. Even NSMBU introduced some new characters - Dragoneels, Flipruses, Waddlewings and even an important new character, Nabbit!TheSuperStarSaga said:
What we have seen in the RPGs is a completely new phenomenon that likely has little to do with the Super Mario series as a whole, so I won't be that negative about SMG3 (yet, of course, I wouldn't expect Tatanga since it was pretty much forgotten after SML2).
That being said, since the Koopalings were confirmed by ShockingAlberto I would like talking Koopalings and many lines of dialogue between them and Bowser and them and Bowser Jr., so that the Italian and German translation teams can continue adding random references to their original relationships that are absolutely absent in the Japanese version, just for fun!
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It seems to me like Nintendo is focusing all of their more creative ideas into the Mario & Luigi line of games. Even after Sticker Star, Dream Team still had that "true Mario RPG" feel to it; new characters, unique and amazing locations (Somnom Woods in particular is INCREDIBLE!!), and a traditional battle system, among other things! One could say Paper Jam had a simple story despite coming after Dream Team, but quite frankly, that might be because of the Paper Mario involvement, and even then the story in Paper Jam isn't too bad (just playing it safe I guess).
Even though I'm gonna try to be optimistic about Color Splash, a part of me is still pretty saddened by this. The first three Paper Mario games played a big part in my gaming experience, and to this day they still remain some of my overall favorite video games. They furthered my enjoyment of the Mario series as a whole, giving me a deeper look at this amazing world and its history. To see that this is what Paper Mario has become is... Depressing... It just, doesn't hold a candle to the classics (I hate to sound like I'm wearing nostalgia goggles, but it's the truth)
Even though I'm gonna try to be optimistic about Color Splash, a part of me is still pretty saddened by this. The first three Paper Mario games played a big part in my gaming experience, and to this day they still remain some of my overall favorite video games. They furthered my enjoyment of the Mario series as a whole, giving me a deeper look at this amazing world and its history. To see that this is what Paper Mario has become is... Depressing... It just, doesn't hold a candle to the classics (I hate to sound like I'm wearing nostalgia goggles, but it's the truth)
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Case in point.
Incidentally, both series have changed their development teams (Sticker Star was developed by a different team within Intelligent System, and Color Splash appear to be made by the Sticker Star team). I guess this shows how important this often overlooked aspect can be.Baby Luigi said:
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Mister Wu said:
In the case of the Mario RPGs, I don't think that the issue lies with the developers being different (different sect of Intelligent Systems like you said). The issue lies with the higher ups at Nintendo restricting the developers (developers: Intelligent Systems and Alphadream). Early builds of Sticker Star had partners and were a lot like the first two games, Miyamoto didn't like that they were similar and he ordered it to be scrapped and re-built1 . He set two rules on the development team of Sticker Star "no story" and "no original characters"2. This rule seems to have stuck and has applied to every Mario RPG since, with the exception of Mario & Luigi Dream Team. Dream Team fought back against their higher up's orders3. The issue is with the higher ups at Nintendo creatively restricting the Mario RPGs, not the development teams themselves.
A lot of the reasons for why Mario RPGs have taken an unfavorable turn recently can be found here, anyone curious should give this a read: http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/089/758/bda.png
1. (source 1: http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/089/758/bda.png).
2. (source 2: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/11/latest_iwata_asks_episode_reveals_why_paper_mario_sticker_star_abandoned_rpg_elements)
3. (source 3: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=67599871postcount=1).
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TheSuperStarSaga said:I cringed for every generic Toad I saw in that trailer haha xD
I wonder how many more years until Miyamoto's rule of "no story and no original characters allowed in Mario RPGs" wears off ( https://www.reddit.com/r/Mario/comments/4b718m/regarding_original_characters_and_story_in_mario/ ). I'll start caring about Mario RPGs again when Story and Original Characters return. Gosh I hate paper Toads now xD
What about fat toad?
he was too fat to fit into the pic.Nitwit said:What about fat toad?
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To be honest about original characters in Mario RPGs..... I don't know what's the point of creating a whole cast of characters if they're going to be forgotten by next game. Unless your Fawful or Lady Bow. (The latter at least has a speaking cameo. Can't say the same for the rest of your partners from the first game.) What is wrong with using characters from previous characters? Or using characters like Waluigi or Daisy.
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People like it when they create new characters because it's "new" and "different" for the sake of it even if they don't ever get reused outside of a tiny cameo of the game.
I like having a variety of different partners, but I don't see the point if they aren't going to physically show up in the next game.
I like having a variety of different partners, but I don't see the point if they aren't going to physically show up in the next game.
This is the worst thing anyone has ever said ever.Mcmadness said:
I fail to see how recurring characters is a bad thing.
Better than using characters once and then replacing them with copycat characters the next game, like Goombario/Goombella, Kooper/Koops, etc. I definitely would have preferred a few of the older partners come back and then they keep appearing in games (not just Paper Mario). Same goes for the bosses.
Better than using characters once and then replacing them with copycat characters the next game, like Goombario/Goombella, Kooper/Koops, etc. I definitely would have preferred a few of the older partners come back and then they keep appearing in games (not just Paper Mario). Same goes for the bosses.
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It's exciting to visit a new world and see new characters. New characters means new possibilities for stories and interactions with other characters. The difference between Bombette and Bobbery is huge, and I am incredibly glad that we got Bobbery's storyline instead of just seeing Bombette again. Beyond that, even if they aren't new species or whatever, if the large majority of the cast is just taken from the last game, then why not just play the last game?
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Stories are pretty dang important for an RPG.