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General Neptune said:i stand corrected
...on what? that was aimed at roy
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General Neptune said:i stand corrected
bit of a meta example, but i said that "nowhere in the bible does it say you have to hate homosexuality" in the post above yoursGreg Universe said:General Neptune said:i stand corrected
...on what? that was aimed at roy
typo pls don't sueNabber said:Neptune, the Bible says the earth is six thousand years old, not two thousand.
One of my teachers talked about how he always voted for a third party (usually the green party iirc) even if he didn't believe in it. As he put it, he was proving to the main two that there's at least one person who disagrees with them. I can't really say I disagree with my teacher; if you stay silent, nobody will know what you're thinking, but if you vote, you're actively speaking up and potentially laying the groundwork for others to do the same.Banjo said:i'm just going to reply to the op (because fuck whatever is going on up there lol) and bring up that i'm not voting this year, and i hate to admit it. i'm too terrified of making the wrong decision. growing up in a very super right wing household, voting left just makes me uncomfortable and none of the republican candidates are really appealing to me. maybe i'll end up voting third party like libertarian or green, but because of the way the system is set up and knowing it won't count for anything it's just demotivating to me
i hope the choices won't be so shitty in four years
Time Turner said:I'm not sure I agree with the idea of voting for the lesser of two evils, so to speak. Somehow, your vote's going to be noticed by someone, somewhere, so I'd rather see it get placed with someone you truly believe in instead of someone you begrudgingly settle on.
this so muchChiaki Nanami said:friendly reminder that if you don't vote, you can't complain about the results
Hobbes said:I'd vote Gary Johnson if it came to be Trump vs Sanders.
I probably won't be able to sway you, but evolution has an extremely strong backing with evidence from several fields of science (forensics, substantial fossil record, heritability, common descent, genetic code, molecular similarities, vestigial parts, radioactive decay, genomes) and has actually been documented in action by Richard Lenski, and computer programmers have successfully simulated evolution to produce complex AI. True, in science, nothing is 100% certain, and some phenomena cannot be explained by mere observation, but just like forensics, you can gather a lot of evidence that's consistent with the theory. There is a reason evolution is called a theory in science: it's the best explanation we have and all the other alternate explanations are inferior due to the lack of evidence or cannot be qualified as a theory (qualifications such as falsifiability, supported by substantial independent sources, consistency, and others are also well-defined and well-reasoned). For this theory to be wrong, there must be plenty of evidence that not only contradicts it, but spectacularly contradicts it AND has to successfully challenge other fields of science like geology and molecular biology. If there is evidence that contradicts this theory, it is more likely that scientists will explore and make adjustments to the theory rather than throw it out. And besides, even if the theory is dead wrong, it's still not a case for creationism or any alternate explanations. They must stand on their own. Creationism, since it's based on unfalsifiable claims, cannot.General Neptune said:the one thing that i do not agree on, which is to say that i'm not entirely convinced by, is evolution
i agree that it is a plausible theory, i'm just not entirely convinced by it
You also need to know that our elections are based on an "all-or-nothing" system as well, which is another problem with voting for third parties.Hobbes said:oh right, I forgot there's this ridiculous system where the candidate who has the most votes can actually lose. When I was talking about null votes I was mostly talking from personal experience here, but it's not the same, then.
I find it odd when people start talking about the Old Testament stuff to try and justify something. It's pretty clear that Jesus was making some changes to the laws when he showed up in the New Testament. He specifically mentions that you shouldn't divorce anymore, even though you were allowed to under the law of Moses.Rhajat said:im christian and i dont hate them.Charley Dietz said:It's not that we Christians hate gay people, it's that we hate homosexuality. I think you're misunderstanding it there.
i personally think the bible is pretty outdated for contemporary times, because there are things like homosexuality, wearing jewelry, eating fish, divorce, etc. that happen around the world and is seen as a common occurrence.
Jesus does say to love your neighbor as yourself, and pray for those who persecute you, but he was also pretty specific that his teachings were going to cause strife:Acts 10:9-16]9 About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city said:Honestly people who use the Bible to justify negative things should just calm the heck down. The Bible says love everyone. People should stop using it to promote hate.
Basically agree with this.Matthew 10:32-39]32 Whoever acknowledges me before others said:Bernie Sanders isn't legitimately bad, and I think he genuinely has very good intentions in what he wants to do. I feel the same way with John Kasich, to be honest. I thoroughly liked Kasich when he entered the race and got the first taste of him during the first debate. He seems a little more agreeable and not as anger-hungry. I don't know what he's been like in Ohio the last few years but he just seems to be the lesser of evils, along with Bernie. It's the problem that I don't think there is any legitimate chance for either one to win the nomination for their parties.
If it comes down to Trump/Cruz on the GOP and Clinton for the Dems, I'd probably vote for whoever the frick comes out of the Libertarian race, assuming it's probably Gary Johnson.
2257 said:do you realise that voting against your state has zero impact on the outcome of a presidential election? i don't mean approximately zero. i mean precisely zero. if you vote for a republican in massachusetts, or a democrat in oklahoma, or an independent in any state... you accomplish exactly as much by staying home and taking a nap
On the record, I was being sarcastic. I'm purely a liberal.Baby Luigi said:PrinceLarryKoopa88 said:Sylveon said:... No.PrinceLarryKoopa88 said:I'm voting for Sarah Palin, she's running right.
Sarah Palin is a very intellectual and intelligent person. I'm voting for her anyways.
bwahahahaha
I'm really ashamed to share the first name with her, but at least no one made fun of me for it...