Yoshiwaker
Star Spirit
It's not just because you don't believe in Him. If you just believed He existed you wouldn't get to heaven.
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It's just a way to show that the only way to have a positive outcome after death is to believe in God. Pretty simple.Nabber said:I don't like this. God gave us free belief for a reason (if he exists.) I don't see a reason for him to send someone to hell just because you don't believe in him.Jack Noir said:
Yoshiwalker said:Think of it this way:
If you kill somebody and in court, you say, "But I've given $100,000 dollars to charity and helped a bunch of hungry people in Africa!" You're still going to be punished, right?
EDIT: And it's impossible to be perfect. As humans, we have a sinful nature.
Yoshiwalker said:It's not just because you don't believe in Him. If you just believed He existed you wouldn't get to heaven.
centaursTesticle said:See, this is one of my problems with religion. I don't think any superpowered being would say "you don't believe in me, eternal damnation". That would be a *bleep* move. I feel that religion should be based more than anything on being kind to other people.
PerNabber said:Exactly!centaursTesticle said:See, this is one of my problems with religion. I don't think any superpowered being would say "you don't believe in me, eternal damnation". That would be a *bleep* move. I feel that religion should be based more than anything on being kind to other people.
*facepalm* God doesn't want anyone to go to Hell. But there is a Devil that does. Jesus died on the cross so that we can all go to Heaven, but you have to first accept him as your savior.Charles zi Britannia said:PerNabber said:Exactly!centaursTesticle said:See, this is one of my problems with religion. I don't think any superpowered being would say "you don't believe in me, eternal damnation". That would be a *bleep* move. I feel that religion should be based more than anything on being kind to other people.
"But who prays for Satan? Who in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?" - Mark TwainFawfulfury65 said:Also, even if you just believe in God, you won't go to Heaven. Satan believes in God, and he's certainly not in Heaven.
If you really want to believe that, go ahead. But I think we have a God that loves everyone no matter what.Nabber said:*facepalm*
Who even knows if Satan exists? And Jesus didn't die on a cross so we could all go to heaven. He died on a cross 'cause the Romans put him on a cross.
Mason said:"But who prays for Satan? Who in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?" - Mark TwainFawfulfury65 said:Also, even if you just believe in God, you won't go to Heaven. Satan believes in God, and he's certainly not in Heaven.
He did write in very standard English. I'm sorry he didn't have the clairvoyance to predict how the language would evolve so that he could make it easier for you.Nabber said:Mason said:"But who prays for Satan? Who in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?" - Mark TwainFawfulfury65 said:Also, even if you just believe in God, you won't go to Heaven. Satan believes in God, and he's certainly not in Heaven.
Why couldn't Twain write in simpler English?
Actually, he stopped his disciples from defending him.Nabber said:*facepalm*
Who even knows if Satan exists? And Jesus didn't die on a cross so we could all go to heaven. He died on a cross 'cause the Romans put him on a cross.
Now now, take it easy, mate. No one likes bein' told their savior is a hack, so can ye perhaps be less elitist when statin' yer opinion?Nabber said:*facepalm*
Who even knows if Satan exists? And Jesus didn't die on a cross so we could all go to heaven. He died on a cross 'cause the Romans put him on a cross.
Is that from any book in particular?Mason said:"But who prays for Satan? Who in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?" - Mark Twain
Fix'dBrother Love said:Do I believe there were people named Jesus yes. Do i believe that he was the son of god, no.
I stand by what i said i in my original postCharles zi Britannia said:Fix'dBrother Love said:Do I believe there were people named Jesus yes. Do i believe that he was the son of god, no.
I missed something..... fix'd again.Brother Love said:I stand by what i said i in my original postCharles zi Britannia said:Fix'dBrother Love said:Do I believe there was a man named Jesus, yes. Do I believe that he was the son of god, no.
Don't quote me than edit it i think people are going to understand what i saidCharles zi Britannia said:I missed something..... fix'd again.Brother Love said:I stand by what i said i in my original postCharles zi Britannia said:Fix'dBrother Love said:Do I believe there was a man named Jesus, yes. Do I believe that he was the son of god, no.