whats your pokemon party

[Anser]

For special attackers I would suggest Starmie, Chandelure, Alakazam, Gengar, Sceptile, Porygon-Z, Cacturne, Hydreigon, Volcarona.

And I would suggest eliminating legendaries from your team. That's extremely lame.

kinda wish you knew the difference between legendaries, also thanks for being rude.

But i dont need anymore special attackers right now so.

I wasn't being rude. I was just expressing my opinion. Sorry if I offended you.

I do find using legendaries lame because most of them are overpowered. In my opinion, if you use legendaries it's because you're not a good trainer and you need to use overpowered Pokémon to have a chance to win. I'm sick of seeing people using Latios, Latias, Thundurus, Tornadus, etc. Man up and use normal Pokémon, raise them and make them BECOME strong. Don't just go and pick a Pokémon that is strong just because.

 

[Zae]

For special attackers I would suggest Starmie, Chandelure, Alakazam, Gengar, Sceptile, Porygon-Z, Cacturne, Hydreigon, Volcarona.

And I would suggest eliminating legendaries from your team. That's extremely lame.

kinda wish you knew the difference between legendaries, also thanks for being rude.

But i dont need anymore special attackers right now so.

I wasn't being rude. I was just expressing my opinion. Sorry if I offended you.

I do find using legendaries lame because most of them are overpowered. In my opinion, if you use legendaries it's because you're not a good trainer and you need to use overpowered Pokémon to have a chance to win. I'm sick of seeing people using Latios, Latias, Thundurus, Tornadus, etc. Man up and use normal Pokémon, raise them and make them BECOME strong. Don't just go and pick a Pokémon that is strong just because.

Alot of normal pokemon can crush other legendaries though.

that's why there are two kinds of legendaries, uber and normal.

For example, Scrafty can make mew look like a joke, where scizor can utterly crush celebi. Not all legendaries are overpowered, it'd be different if I was using kyogre or Mewtwo, but im not.

Plus even normal pokemon can be considered uber, like Garchomp, Excadrill, and Blaziken.

Before calling someone lame or whatever, you should really do some more research on legedaries, as there are quite a few legendaries that just down right suck.

Also besides that, people will choose a pokemon for how useful it is and how much they like the design. I'm sure plenty of people like beedrill, but no one in their right mind would use it due to having crap stats and one of the worst typings in the game as well as a move pool as barren as a desert.

Also you shouldn't really call people lame for choosing something you know so little about, that in itself is pretty rude and inconsiderate.

 

[MnSG]

Yup. Certain legendaries don't do so well as others. Entei, for example, has such a limited physical movepool, and it can't even get Flare Blitz by normal means.

Likewise, Regigigas does not do well in the single and rotation battles, as its Slow Start ability heavily hinders its sweeping potential. However, in the double and triple battles, pair Regigigas with someone who has Skill Swap, Worry Seed, or any ability changing moves, and you can get rid of Slow Start, which in return, will enable Regigigas to strike at full power much sooner than normal.

 

[Zae]

Yup. Certain legendaries don't do so well as others. Entei, for example, has such a limited physical movepool, and it can't even get Flare Blitz by normal means.

Likewise, Regigigas does not do well in the single and rotation battles, as its Slow Start ability heavily hinders its sweeping potential. However, in the double and triple battles, pair Regigigas with someone who has Skill Swap, Worry Seed, or any ability changing moves, and you can get rid of Slow Start, which in return, will enable Regigigas to strike at full power much sooner than normal.

Yeah sadly Regiggas has like the worst ability ever, as it could be really good. Didn't think of that strategy though, might try it sometime.

Regi's in general are pretty terrible though, usually dont have good move pools, or just bad situational stats. Think the only viable one is registeel and its not even that great and really doesn't have much to offer.

Moltres and Articuno have great stats though and decent move pools, but sadly they are utterly crushed by their horrible typings. As electric and rock users are quite popular now and can crush either of them pretty easily.

I'm sure there are other legendaries that aren't that great either.

 

[Stargatedalek]

For special attackers I would suggest Starmie, Chandelure, Alakazam, Gengar, Sceptile, Porygon-Z, Cacturne, Hydreigon, Volcarona.

And I would suggest eliminating legendaries from your team. That's extremely lame.

kinda wish you knew the difference between legendaries, also thanks for being rude.

But i dont need anymore special attackers right now so.

I wasn't being rude. I was just expressing my opinion. Sorry if I offended you.

I do find using legendaries lame because most of them are overpowered. In my opinion, if you use legendaries it's because you're not a good trainer and you need to use overpowered Pokémon to have a chance to win. I'm sick of seeing people using Latios, Latias, Thundurus, Tornadus, etc. Man up and use normal Pokémon, raise them and make them BECOME strong. Don't just go and pick a Pokémon that is strong just because.

thats exactly what I meant, people claiming using legendaries is cheap, well it isn't, as said they have weaknesses to, I use Poke'mon because I like them, not because I need to put work into them in order to not fall under other peoples categories of cheap. I still put work into legendaries, they aren't all level 100 when you catch them you know!! in fact most are around 45-50 (except ubers, they're more around 75-90)

 

[Anser]

Alot of normal pokemon can crush other legendaries though.

that's why there are two kinds of legendaries, uber and normal.

For example, Scrafty can make mew look like a joke, where scizor can utterly crush celebi. Not all legendaries are overpowered, it'd be different if I was using kyogre or Mewtwo, but im not.

Hence why I said:

I do find using legendaries lame because most of them are overpowered.

See how I didn't say "all legendaries are"?

Plus even normal pokemon can be considered uber, like Garchomp, Excadrill, and Blaziken.

The thing is, those Pokémon are only overpowered under certain circumstances. Garchomp and Excadrill are nothing without a sandstorm and if Blaziken doesn't have Speed Boost is pretty normal.

Before calling someone lame or whatever, you should really do some more research on legedaries, as there are quite a few legendaries that just down right suck.

I never called you lame. I said using legendaries is lame. Actually, I don't need to research anything. I've played Pokémon since 14 years ago and I do know about legendaries. Yes, some of them suck, and people don't use them. They use the overpowered ones.

Also besides that, people will choose a pokemon for how useful it is and how much they like the design. I'm sure plenty of people like beedrill, but no one in their right mind would use it due to having crap stats and one of the worst typings in the game as well as a move pool as barren as a desert.

I put this exact example in another thread, so I agree.

Also you shouldn't really call people lame for choosing something you know so little about, that in itself is pretty rude and inconsiderate.

I repeat: I never called you lame. I said using legendaries is lame, and I think I can safely say I know as much about legendaries as you, or maybe even more. Trust me, I wouldn't be talking about something I know nothing about.

 

[Zae]

I still dont see why you needed to leave the lame comment since i wasn't even using an overpowered legendary to begin with.

Also garchomp doesn't need sandstorm, sure sand veil helps, but all it has to do is either use swords dance or just plain out attack and it can really rip through pokemon, and setting up sandstorm is stupidly easy with Tyranitar and Hippowdon, who use it on the switch.

And anyone not getting blaziken with speed boost is pretty laughable, since everyone and i mean everyone, knows thats why it's freaking powerful.

Besides even without that blaziken has a a good attack stat, and considering he gets flare blitz AND high jump kick, which is almost not resisted by anything, besides maybe gyrados and giratina, means almost nothing will survive it.

And we can just bring up scizor and Ferrothorn who both have amazing types and can crush any normal pokemon fairly easily, atleast in most cases.

There are many many pokemon that can be considered uber, like Hydreigon and even Bisharp.

 

[Anser]

I still dont see why you needed to leave the lame comment since i wasn't even using an overpowered legendary to begin with.

Also garchomp doesn't need sandstorm, sure sand veil helps, but all it has to do is either use swords dance or just plain out attack and it can really rip through pokemon, and setting up sandstorm is stupidly easy with Tyranitar and Hippowdon, who use it on the switch.

And anyone not getting blaziken with speed boost is pretty laughable, since everyone and i mean everyone, knows thats why it's freaking powerful.

Besides even without that blaziken has a a good attack stat, and considering he gets flare blitz AND high jump kick, which is almost not resisted by anything, besides maybe gyrados and giratina, means almost nothing will survive it.

And we can just bring up scizor and Ferrothorn who both have amazing types and can crush any normal pokemon fairly easily, atleast in most cases.

There are many many pokemon that can be considered uber, like Hydreigon and even Bisharp.

Exactly, you're getting my point. Garchomp becomes unstoppable IF it uses Swords Dance, but it isn't unstoppable by itself. Blaziken needs Speed Boost, and Ferrothorn is better when it's running a defensive set and has stalled the opponent. They become unstoppable after they meet certain requirements, but they are not overpowered just because they have no option, like most legendaries. Anyway, we would have to agree to disagree, I guess.

 

[Zae]

I suppose so.

Anyway forging new grounds with scrafty, his speed sucks but he's pretty bulky, good boosting moves, and excellent stab.

Anyway heres what I got for his moveset:

Hi jump kick
Crunch
Bulk up
Rest

Crunch and hi jump kick for obvious reasons, bulk up to increase his attack and defense, good for physical attackers, and rest to heal hp. With shed skin sleep can wear off quickly.

Although Drain punch is a viable option, as it does damage and heals, but on other hand it wont heal much if make a mistake and use drain punch on something that resists it, and of course cant hit ghosts.

I thought about dragon dance as well, but Scrafty's speed is so bad im not even sure that'd help at all, bulk up seems like a better option in terms of boosting.

1 more physical attacker to go.

 

[Snifit on Stilts]

An idea I have for joltik.

Marowak
Item: thick club
Perish song
Brick break
Bone club
Rest

 

[Zae]

An idea I have for joltik.

Marowak
Item: thick club
Perish song
Brick break
Bone club
Rest

Not a very good set, while perish sounds okay, but Marowak is better off with earthquake or Bonemerang, stone edge, and double edge.

Rest wouldn't be good since he has no way to recover from sleep, his crap hp and special defense are also not very good. Not to mention he's really slow too, all that doesn't go very well.

plus ive already used him before, he'd be good for trick room though, but i dont plan to use that.

to be honest i wouldn't really suggest perish song anyway, as with thick club is basically a swords dance boost, so he wont need it due to hitting hard with his stab and other moves.

 

[Anser]

How about Archeops? My Archeops has the following setting:

Archeops @Flying Gem
252 Attack / 252 Speed / 6 HP

-Stone Edge
-Acrobatics
-Earthquake
-Dragon Claw

Yes, crappy defenses, and easy pray for Bullet Punch, but the first Acrobatics it does is a sure 1-Hit-KO.

Or maybe Haxorus? Here's how I trained mine:

Haxorus @Lum Berry
252 Attack / 252 Speed / 6 HP

-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Brick Break
-Dragon Dance

Seriously, after one Dragon Dance, that thing becomes unstoppable.

 

[Zae]

Except flying gem can only be used once and Archeops has a utterly terrible ability.

Although Haxorus is indeed something that could be useful.

Seems everyone suggests brick break though and i can only get it through tournaments which i haven't done yet.

Any other suggestions for brick til' I get the tm?

Also been thinking about weavile.

Really fast and good attack, access to ice shard, and just a good dual typing for offenses.

also looking at dragons it seems like all dragons have over 10,000 base steps to hatch, god that sucks. Wouldn't mind having a Salamence, Dragonite, or Haxorus.

I also wish I could go with dreamworld for Gliscor, as poison heal is a great ability.

I'm sure he's still decent though considering he gets roost anyway but still.

 

[Anser]

Except flying gem can only be used once and Archeops has a utterly terrible ability.

Although Haxorus is indeed something that could be useful.

Seems everyone suggests brick break though and i can only get it through tournaments which i haven't done yet.

Any other suggestions for brick til' I get the tm?

Also been thinking about weavile.

Really fast and good attack, access to ice shard, and just a good dual typing for offenses.

also looking at dragons it seems like all dragons have over 10,000 base steps to hatch, god that sucks. Wouldn't mind having a Salamence, Dragonite, or Haxorus.

I also wish I could go with dreamworld for Gliscor, as poison heal is a great ability.

I'm sure he's still decent though considering he gets roost anyway but still.

Yeah, that's the thing about Archeops. I only use it when I really need to kill a Pokémon because it kills almost everything with the first Acrobatics, although even after the Flying Gem is gone, Acrobatics's power is 110, which is pretty powerful. Ah, you're playing B2/W2. I would suggest Shadow Claw in the meantime. Having some coverage is always good.

Weavile is algo a very good option. Ice Shard, Night Slash, Swords Dance and Protect + Leftovers can be a pretty good strategy.

Yeah, tell me about that. I bred a Hydreigon, a Haxorus and a Dragonite and each of them took YEARS. It paid off, though.

Hmm, I don't know about Gliscor since I have never used it, but I've heard that when it has Poison Heal, it's a monster. It most likely is equipped with Earthquake, Stone Edge, X-Scissor and Protect.

 

[MnSG]

Yeah sadly Regiggas has like the worst ability ever, as it could be really good. Didn't think of that strategy though, might try it sometime.

Well, the strategy is not too different from the one involving Slaking. But unlike with the Truant ability, where only Skill Swap and Gastro Acid will affect it, you have more options for removing Slow Start from Regigigas. Additionally, you can use that strategy to get rid of Defeatist from Archeops, as the moves that can neutralize Slow Start can be used on Defeatist as well.

 

[Zae]

Except flying gem can only be used once and Archeops has a utterly terrible ability.

Although Haxorus is indeed something that could be useful.

Seems everyone suggests brick break though and i can only get it through tournaments which i haven't done yet.

Any other suggestions for brick til' I get the tm?

Also been thinking about weavile.

Really fast and good attack, access to ice shard, and just a good dual typing for offenses.

also looking at dragons it seems like all dragons have over 10,000 base steps to hatch, god that sucks. Wouldn't mind having a Salamence, Dragonite, or Haxorus.

I also wish I could go with dreamworld for Gliscor, as poison heal is a great ability.

I'm sure he's still decent though considering he gets roost anyway but still.

Yeah, that's the thing about Archeops. I only use it when I really need to kill a Pokémon because it kills almost everything with the first Acrobatics, although even after the Flying Gem is gone, Acrobatics's power is 110, which is pretty powerful. Ah, you're playing B2/W2. I would suggest Shadow Claw in the meantime. Having some coverage is always good.

Weavile is algo a very good option. Ice Shard, Night Slash, Swords Dance and Protect + Leftovers can be a pretty good strategy.

Yeah, tell me about that. I bred a Hydreigon, a Haxorus and a Dragonite and each of them took YEARS. It paid off, though.

Hmm, I don't know about Gliscor since I have never used it, but I've heard that when it has Poison Heal, it's a monster. It most likely is equipped with Earthquake, Stone Edge, X-Scissor and Protect.

Honestly think protect could be replaced with swords dance, boosting its average attack stat to a good level.

Then again I hear gliscor has a wide array of sets so who knows.

Although protect wouldn't be too bad for more defensive sets, since that would allow toxic orb to activate.

Well, the strategy is not too different from the one involving Slaking. But unlike with the Truant ability, where only Skill Swap and Gastro Acid will affect it, you have more options for removing Slow Start from Regigigas. Additionally, you can use that strategy to get rid of Defeatist from Archeops, as the moves that can neutralize Slow Start can be used on Defeatist as well.

too bad its only useful for doubles, rotates, and triples though, plus im not exactly sure about losing a moveslot over that one move.

 

[Stargatedalek]

Also you shouldn't really call people lame for choosing something you know so little about, that in itself is pretty rude and inconsiderate.

I repeat: I never called you lame. I said using legendaries is lame, and I think I can safely say I know as much about legendaries as you, or maybe even more. Trust me, I wouldn't be talking about something I know nothing about.

you know about legendaries and yet you never use them and hate on people for doing so, yah........ okay... :P

Yeah sadly Regiggas has like the worst ability ever, as it could be really good. Didn't think of that strategy though, might try it sometime.

Well, the strategy is not too different from the one involving Slaking. But unlike with the Truant ability, where only Skill Swap and Gastro Acid will affect it, you have more options for removing Slow Start from Regigigas. Additionally, you can use that strategy to get rid of Defeatist from Archeops, as the moves that can neutralize Slow Start can be used on Defeatist as well.

as someone who hopes to use archeops whence I aquire one I will keep that in mind

 

[MnSG]

too bad its only useful for doubles, rotates, and triples though, plus im not exactly sure about losing a moveslot over that one move.

You can't use that strategy in rotation battles. It's limited to double and triple battles only.

Of course, you can utilize Tailwind and Trick Room teams in the rotation battles. In fact, Power Trick Shuckle tends to have an easier time at the rotation battles, as after it uses Power Trick, you can rotate over to a Trick Room user so that it won't get messed up too quickly. Of course, increased priority moves are still Shuckle's biggest bane.

 

[Zae]

Alright boys and girls, taking a step back here.

Kinda scared to use simipour due to its 75/63/63 defenses. Not sure it will get much of a chance to use nasty plot if a good offensive poke comes in.

But there are a plethora of good waters with decent or above special attack stats, and are not as frail as simpour.

Milotic has decent special attack, has recover, as well as hydro pump/surf/scald and ice beam.

Marvel scale is also an amazing ability that ups its defense by 1.5 times if status'd, as well as a titanic special defense to go with it.

Starmie also seems good, having some interesting resistances, good movepool, and awesome ability in natural cure. Special attack is also average and then his speed is pretty dang good. Not sure how I feel having two psychic types on my team though. Since psychic is weak to a lot of common attacking types, but who knows.

I'm also considering Omastar, as its special attack is quite good and with shell smash it could certainly be a monster of mass destruction.

Sadly it can't really make use of its rock typing with special, but hydro pump, ice beam, and earth power might do the trick, but its movepool seems a bit shallow and his typing could prove a problem defensively.

Also as nice as Jellicent is, I'd rather use something else since I used it several times in b/w.

and lastly, there is slowbro. Good defense and decent special attack, can heal itself on the go, and has a decent move pool. Hp ain't too bad either, sadly his special defense is kinda eh and he's pretty slow, but yeah.

oh yeah almost forgot vapereon. Good hp stat, and fairly good special attack, also tolerable special defense. Good wish passer and can make use of scald, but I think thats for more balance teams or defensive anyway.

So yeah need suggestions, or just tell me if I should keep simipour as boosting a 98 base special attack with nasty plot can certainly leave some dents.

EDIT:

Oh yeah concerning that last physical attacker, after much debating with myself, I choose Mamoswine. Fairly nice stats and quite powerful, not to mention he's a freaking mammoth.

 

[GalacticPetey]

Kingdra

 

[Zae]

Kingdra

too ugly.

 

[GalacticPetey]

Appearances don't win a match.

 

[Zae]

Appearances don't win a match.

Too bad I only use pokemon that I find useful and like the design. Don't use them otherwise, kinda like how I'll never use swampert despite its useful typing and fair stats, but its too ugly so I don't use it.

 

[NotABannableOffense]

Appearances don't win a match.

Too bad I only use pokemon that I find useful and like the design. Don't use them otherwise, kinda like how I'll never use swampert despite its useful typing and fair stats, but its too ugly so I don't use it.

Fuck that. However, this would make an interesting challenge(you know, like nuzlocke)

 

[Zae]

Appearances don't win a match.

Too bad I only use pokemon that I find useful and like the design. Don't use them otherwise, kinda like how I'll never use swampert despite its useful typing and fair stats, but its too ugly so I don't use it.

*bleep* that. However, this would make an interesting challenge(you know, like nuzlocke)

Nuzlocke is pretty awesome, really liked it in platinum and b/w.