Unpopular opinions about the Mario series
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Sleuth "Doggy" Dawg
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It certainly is.
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Mario Party is the canon series. All the other series are expansions to minigames.
Sleuth "Doggy" Dawg
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Yeah, that's the way it usually goes with first time games in a series; In many ways, it's iconic, but usually isn't as recognized as its sequel, which is often times superior.
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Cataquacks are amazing critters and should appear more.
Super Mario Bros 1 is my favorite game of the NES trilogy. It's simple, no world maps, just action, just the right length. The castle maze levels are bad, a few too many are too similar, but overall, it's fun if you don't hold down the run button all the time. It's the one I come back to the most, when I try to replay the others, I tend to fall off a quarter of the way in.
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SUPER MARIO BROS. SPECIAL IS ACTUALLY REALLY FUN EVERYONE ELSE ARE JUST COWARDS AND THEY SHOULD CRY INTO AND MARRY THEIR COPIES OF NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. U IF THEY LOVE OBJECTIVELY GOOD VIDEO GAMES SO MUCH
...okay, uh, maybe not that extreme on the last part, we're obviously playing it up for a bit. :P
But still! We do genuinely love Super Mario Bros. Special. We dunno! Call it stockholm syndrome after having to write over half its level pages! We genuinely had a blast playing it for the wiki and the weird jank to it all added to our enjoyment of it, if you can believe it! While it's obviously not for everyone, we would still call it a must-play for people either playing weird obscure Mario games, weird obscure platformers, or just trying to play as many Sharp X1/PC-88 games as they can.
...okay, uh, maybe not that extreme on the last part, we're obviously playing it up for a bit. :P
But still! We do genuinely love Super Mario Bros. Special. We dunno! Call it stockholm syndrome after having to write over half its level pages! We genuinely had a blast playing it for the wiki and the weird jank to it all added to our enjoyment of it, if you can believe it! While it's obviously not for everyone, we would still call it a must-play for people either playing weird obscure Mario games, weird obscure platformers, or just trying to play as many Sharp X1/PC-88 games as they can.
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MY OPINIONS ON THE MARIO SERIES VOL.1 (Please let me know if you agree or disagree on this and why.)
- WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHLUIGI (I'm sorry I'll stop) is a little overrated in the sense of hype. Stop saying that you want him to get into Smash, It's not possible anymore and it will NEVER EVER HAPPEN
- I only like the babies when they were in the Yoshi's Island series
- I miss when Daisy when she was a little tomboyish at the same time she was a proper (yet imperfect) princess (see Mario Golf and Mario Tennis) It really fucking pissed me off when in Mario Kart she She became a shell of herself and the only personality she had is being loud & annoying. (see Luigi for the same issue, gentle yet imperfect personality--->Coward)
- I miss the sports genre of games, its getting real stale with all the platformers we are getting nowadays. (No wonder why people turned to Sonic and Sega during the console wars) I mean, we do have the Olympics games, but it's not better than sports series.
- We need something else besides platformers, It's getting VERY OLD & STALE. Like I state with my previous opinion, I hate the fact We are currently only receiving platformers, racing/go-kart and the party games. Why don't we have something like a dating simulator or quiz game?(Or maybe the return of the edutainment games)
- I hate to be the devil's advocate, but I do find Yoshi & the babies annoying, not cute Yoshi's voice is nails on the damn chalkboard. (Yeah, I admit I used to find him very cute, however my opinion has changed.)
- Speaking of Daisy, I think she needs her own game like dating simulator or something. I mean, she was in Wonder. That was the first time that she became an actual player character for platformer, but we need something beyond that.
- I don't wanna sound very childish or old saying this, but children, especially your grandkids, need to be exposed to the older games, not the remake of the older games because those eliminate features that they need to see.
- I hate the fact that Nintendo had a kids section on Youtube, my youngest cousin, watches it and (Take a shot every time I say "nails on a chalkboard"). The kid Youtuber(s) voice who promote for Nintendo is NAILS ON A FUCKING CHALKBOARD. It feels like your generic Youtuber/Kidtuber/Kidleberity that is currently trending on Youtube.
- I wish there was away for Nintendo to archive all of their interactive sites and games because nowadays we're relying on YouTube to babysit our kids instead of having kids sites. The deaths of kids sites make me really sad :[
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I love Mario sports games and they're probably the reason I'm in the series. I'm bored of the constant sequels, I'm bored of the constant platformers, I'm bored of the constant RPGs, I want new genres or new sports games explored.
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There's a decent amount of sports and party games this generation but, while solid, all of them were lacking, usually content (Super Mario Party), game options (Super Mario Party Jamboree, Mario Party Superstars, Mario Tennis Aces) or both (Battle League, Mario Golf Super Rush). Though Mario + Rabbids was cool, same for Mario vs DK co-op, the slog of this generation of Nintendo, year after year, failing to deliver on these games and relying on dripfeed practices (compounded with strong sales in spite of this) and lack of new offerings contributed to my declining my interest in the Mario series. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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3d world >>>> wonder
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Super Paper Mario was a mid game when it came out and it's still a mid game today.
The later Paper Mario games being outright poo does not somehow retroactively make SPM one of the 'great' Paper Mario games alongside the original and TTYD.
The later Paper Mario games being outright poo does not somehow retroactively make SPM one of the 'great' Paper Mario games alongside the original and TTYD.
Sleuth "Doggy" Dawg
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I agree, Super Paper Mario is definitely mediocre at best when compared to the first two Paper Mario games, and while it's only slightly better than the three Paper Mario games that followed, it's still mediocre.
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On the contrary I find it mediocre at *worst,* and people grossly overexaggerate its negatives while downplaying its positives. It does a lot more right than wrong in my opinion. There is not enough appreciation for all the things that SPM was the last game to have, everyone always only looks at the battle system when deciding what Paper Mario's roots are and what to criticize about the modern games. What about the recurring original NPCs and enemies, the item/cooking system, the chapter/interlude structure, the significant presence of a narrator, the organic high-stakes threat fit for a grand RPG.
In the grand scheme of things SPM respects the traditions of its predecessors even while mixing things up, which I can't say about any future entry until the TTYD remake. Which very satisfyingly called forward to SPM further emphasizing it as part of this timeline, by showing the photo of 64's partners that SPM had in its intro, and the ending also featuring the photo of TTYD's partners.
As for the gameplay itself, it's fine. It's TTYD's physics engine but adapted into a platformer. I find it satisfying to maneuver. It has some chapters with that meta style of design that does a bit and goes "no they wouldn't. they did." but doesn't overdo it imo. On repeat playthroughs it might have been overbearing if the instances of it weren't designed with a code that repeat players could just use to skip the bit. Overall, the experience gives me a good majority of the things I want and expect out of a Paper Mario adventure, which again i can't say for the later entries except to a much smaller degree Origami King.
In the grand scheme of things SPM respects the traditions of its predecessors even while mixing things up, which I can't say about any future entry until the TTYD remake. Which very satisfyingly called forward to SPM further emphasizing it as part of this timeline, by showing the photo of 64's partners that SPM had in its intro, and the ending also featuring the photo of TTYD's partners.
As for the gameplay itself, it's fine. It's TTYD's physics engine but adapted into a platformer. I find it satisfying to maneuver. It has some chapters with that meta style of design that does a bit and goes "no they wouldn't. they did." but doesn't overdo it imo. On repeat playthroughs it might have been overbearing if the instances of it weren't designed with a code that repeat players could just use to skip the bit. Overall, the experience gives me a good majority of the things I want and expect out of a Paper Mario adventure, which again i can't say for the later entries except to a much smaller degree Origami King.
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That game I'd consider a platformer or an action adventure with RPG elements, the RPG elements are so bare minimum in this game that if we were to classify that as an RPG, then the Legend of Zelda must be an RPG too.
To be fair, the term "RPG" is very loosely defined but I've played nonRPGs with much more RPG mechanics than Super Paper Mario (nonRPGs that have experience points, leveling up, killing enemies to get stronger, gear, stats, a story, some crafting system, party members, etc).
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The Sand Kingdom is the best kingdom in Super Mario Odyssey, where most of the soundtrack is localized in smaller areas and the ambient background noise makes up most of the kingdom. I can spend plenty of time here due to the more subdued use of music vs the constantly looping 45-second track of New Donk City and Fossil Falls.