Pokemon X and Pokemon Y

[2257]

isnt "signature moves" just a fanon concept anyway

 

[Pokemon DP]

better question would be why can a supposedly evil ghost pokemon learn an attack associated with justice

 

[Crackin355]

better question would be why can a supposedly evil ghost pokemon learn an attack associated with justice

Why does it have to be evil? I thought it was just a ghost possessing some inanimate objects, like there has been for the past few gens.

 

[Dr. Javelin]

isnt "signature moves" just a fanon concept anyway

in a way, but multiple moves that are/were only available to one pokemon are likely thought of by game freak to be signature moves

like, mewtwo is the only pokemon that can learn psystrike. that's probably intended to be a signature move, at least until another generation comes along and makes it not a signature move anymore

 

[MnSG]

But he can use ice and thunder fang, which are better than crunch.

First, Gyarados can't learn Thunder Fang. Second, Crunch is stronger, AND more accurate than the elemental fang attacks. However, because Gyarados gets Dragon Dance, Ice Fang can pack a bigger punch on the Dragon-type Pokemon than normal.

Similarly, Durant can get some use out of Thunder Fang, as Hustle boosts Thunder Fang's base power to 97.5, and one Hone Claws boost ensures that it'll always hit.

 

[Pokemon DP]

Why does it have to be evil? I thought it was just a ghost possessing some inanimate objects, like there has been for the past few gens.

it drains the energy of anyone that wields it, so it's implied that it isn't exactly the kindest of pokemon

 

[Crackin355]

Why does it have to be evil? I thought it was just a ghost possessing some inanimate objects, like there has been for the past few gens.

it drains the energy of anyone that wields it, so it's implied that it isn't exactly the kindest of pokemon

Maybe he's sensitive, gets scared and grabs the nearest thing out fear. Poor guy is just misunderstood. What an asshole, who would do that. Honestly.

 

[DragonFreak]

But he can use ice and thunder fang, which are better than crunch.

First, Gyarados can't learn Thunder Fang. Second, Crunch is stronger, AND more accurate than the elemental fang attacks. However, because Gyarados gets Dragon Dance, Ice Fang can pack a bigger punch on the Dragon-type Pokemon than normal.

Well anyways, I like Gyarados learning Ice Fang or some similar ice move, because I always use a Gyarados to fight dragon-types.

 

[2257]

in a way, but multiple moves that are/were only available to one pokemon are likely thought of by game freak to be signature moves

like, mewtwo is the only pokemon that can learn psystrike. that's probably intended to be a signature move, at least until another generation comes along and makes it not a signature move anymore

sooooo.... in other words, "yes"?

 

[Dr. Javelin]

i guess what i'm saying is that they're supposed to be signature moves until game freak decides to give them away

 

[Baby Mario Bloops]

Very interesting rumors

Other Pokemon that are now Fairy-type: the Chansey evolution line, Dunsparce, the Clefairy line, and Togepi’s line.

 

[DragonFreak]

Has there even been a water/fighting Pokemon before?

 

[Crackin355]

Has there even been a water/fighting Pokemon before?

 

[Purple Yoshi]

The rumours sound believable. But if that picture is supposed to be Froakie's final evolution, where did the scarf come from? It wasn't in any other evolution. Unless it's just a really long tongue. I can't exactly tell.

I just want to know more about the story! And Fennekin's final evolution. It looks like it's going to be a Fire/Psychic witch, but I hope it looks cool.

 

[Crackin355]

I think Froakie's final evolution will be Water/Fighting but I don't think that picture is real.

 

[Cirdec]

Blissey becoming Fairy? That would be neat.

 

[MnSG]

Blissey becoming Fairy? That would be neat.

Why Game Freak would buff up the greatest special wall of all time is beyond me. Blissey is already tough enough as a pure Normal-type Pokemon.

As for the Togepi family, Togetic and Togekiss are Normal/Flying-type Pokemon, which should be a clear giveaway that they can't become Fairy-type Pokemon. Besides, Fairy/Flying has "five" weaknesses, while Normal/Flying only has "three".

 

[2257]

do you really believe nintendo cares about game balance

 

[Cirdec]

They seem because they added Fairy type to balance Dragon type, which was a bit overpewered in my opinion.

 

[Baby Mario Bloops]

They seem because they added Fairy type to balance Dragon type, which was a bit overpewered in my opinion.

Well, at the same time they did keep Fairy type rather balanced too by making it weak to Steel and Poison, and not very effective against both those types and fire.

But if you are part of the Hydregion or Scraggy evolutionary line, you're basically screwed.

 

[MnSG]

do you really believe nintendo cares about game balance

The company obviously doesn't care if a type combination has "7" weaknesses, but that's something that really hurts the Grass/Psychic, Grass/Ice, and Rock/Psychic Pokemon.

They seem because they added Fairy type to balance Dragon type, which was a bit overpewered in my opinion.

Well, at the same time they did keep Fairy type rather balanced too by making it weak to Steel and Poison, and not very effective against both those types and fire.

But if you are part of the Hydregion or Scraggy evolutionary line, you're basically screwed.

You're also forgetting that Sableye and Spiritomb are no longer weakness-free, since back then, they only took super-effective damage from Fighting-type attacks, which they're naturally immune to. As a result, the attacker had to either use Foresight or Odor Sleuth, or have the Scrappy ability to have any chance of hitting Sableye or Spiritomb with Fighting-type attacks. Fairy-type attacks don't require ANY of those things to deliver a super-effective hit on Sableye or Spiritomb.

 

[Iggy Koopa Jr]

So, Nintendo is gonna sue PETA for their Pokemon copyright infringement?

 

[Cirdec]

do you really believe nintendo cares about game balance

The company obviously doesn't care if a type combination has "7" weaknesses, but that's something that really hurts the Grass/Psychic, Grass/Ice, and Rock/Psychic Pokemon.

They seem because they added Fairy type to balance Dragon type, which was a bit overpewered in my opinion.

Well, at the same time they did keep Fairy type rather balanced too by making it weak to Steel and Poison, and not very effective against both those types and fire.

But if you are part of the Hydregion or Scraggy evolutionary line, you're basically screwed.

You're also forgetting that Sableye and Spiritomb are no longer weakness-free, since back then, they only took super-effective damage from Fighting-type attacks, which they're naturally immune to. As a result, the attacker had to either use Foresight or Odor Sleuth, or have the Scrappy ability to have any chance of hitting Sableye or Spiritomb with Fighting-type attacks. Fairy-type attacks don't require ANY of those things to deliver a super-effective hit on Sableye or Spiritomb.

You can't balance all double types combinaisons, some are better than others.

Anyway Sableye ans Spiritomb are meh.

 

[Baby Mario Bloops]

do you really believe nintendo cares about game balance

The company obviously doesn't care if a type combination has "7" weaknesses, but that's something that really hurts the Grass/Psychic, Grass/Ice, and Rock/Psychic Pokemon.

They seem because they added Fairy type to balance Dragon type, which was a bit overpewered in my opinion.

Well, at the same time they did keep Fairy type rather balanced too by making it weak to Steel and Poison, and not very effective against both those types and fire.

But if you are part of the Hydregion or Scraggy evolutionary line, you're basically screwed.

You're also forgetting that Sableye and Spiritomb are no longer weakness-free, since back then, they only took super-effective damage from Fighting-type attacks, which they're naturally immune to. As a result, the attacker had to either use Foresight or Odor Sleuth, or have the Scrappy ability to have any chance of hitting Sableye or Spiritomb with Fighting-type attacks. Fairy-type attacks don't require ANY of those things to deliver a super-effective hit on Sableye or Spiritomb.

So they now gained a weakness, it really doesn't change much. Sableye and Spiritomb were pretty op with the no weaknesses (even if that was the only thing really going for them).

Though, I completely agree that Bug type having all those types that are resistant against it is just a load of bull. I thought that maybe Bug should have been effective against fairy instead, making Bug a much more reasonable typing.

 

[Anser]

I agree with ADDING types to older Pokémon, but I'll definitely HATE it if they change some types. I won't like it if Togekiss is changed to Fairy/Flying. Let it stay Normal/Flying.