Super Smash Bros. for Wii U & 3DS Discussion

[Ray Trace]

Mario, too. Mario has a buttload of spinoffs that Nintendo can consider for playability. Hell, we don't have Toad.

Most of which all pull from the same small pool of characters while ignoring the vast expanse of the series.

You can make that argument for Mario games

but not for Smash

 

[GalacticPetey]

As for Mario, Toad should really have priority. He's been a part of Mario as long as Peach and Bowser have. He's instantly recognizable even to non Mario fans. There's no one he could really be a clone of and it would be hilarious to beat people up with Toad.

 

[Ray Trace]

I agree

hell I'd prefer Waluigi over an RPG character

 

[LeftyGreenMario]

As for Mario, Toad should really have priority. He's been a part of Mario as long as Peach and Bowser have. He's instantly recognizable even to non Mario fans. There's no one he could really be a clone of and it would be hilarious to beat people up with Toad.

I keep making this argument, but Toads have been playable consistently since New Super Mario Bros. Wii.

Hell, if we had Toad playable in Super Smash Bros. 4, we'd have the complete cast of Super Mario 3D World.

 

[3D Player 2004]

I am vehemently opposed to the idea of a Playable Ghirahim. He is a terrible character that is very annoying in of itself and as GalacticPetey said, Tingle and Impa are more deserving as Zelda reps (and even so, Zelda only deserves 5 reps this game though it would have been nice to cut Toon Link and Sheik for those 2) while Bowser Jr is more deserving as a villain rep. As for Mario reps, I believe the series deserves 7 and Daisy and Bowser Jr should take priority while Toad should have to wait out for Smash 5.

 

[GalacticPetey]

As for Mario, Toad should really have priority. He's been a part of Mario as long as Peach and Bowser have. He's instantly recognizable even to non Mario fans. There's no one he could really be a clone of and it would be hilarious to beat people up with Toad.

I keep making this argument, but Toads have been playable consistently since New Super Mario Bros. Wii.

Hell, if we had Toad playable in Super Smash Bros. 4, we'd have the complete cast of Super Mario 3D World.

Yeah, the fact that not one but two Toads got to be playable in NSMBW and U over characters like Peach or Wario is kind of a testament to that.

 

[Ray Trace]

Not to mention he's getting his own bloody game (in the form of Captain Toad but my point still stands)

 

[Lumastar]

Not to mention he's getting his own bloody game (in the form of Captain Toad but my point still stands)

Don't forget Wario's Woods!

*cricket chirps*

Come on! It's not even night here!

 

[GalacticPetey]

In terms of priority for Smash for me.

Toad > Paper Mario=Bowser Jr. >>> Waluigi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone else

 

[Ray Trace]

Don't forget Wario's Woods!

*cricket chirps*

Come on! It's not even night here!

Too much of those things invade my home. Too much of them I kill.

In terms of priority for Smash for me.

Toad > Paper Mario=Bowser Jr. >>> Waluigi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone else

I think Paper Mario should be lower but otherwise I agree

 

[3D Player 2004]

For me:

Daisy>>Waluigi>Bowser Jr>>Toad>>>>>Koopa Kid>>>Anyone else

 

[LeftyGreenMario]

So, I don't get the arguments against Toad. Toad is more deserving than Rosalina.

I am vehemently opposed to the idea of a Playable Ghirahim. He is a terrible character that is very annoying in of itself and as GalacticPetey said, Tingle and Impa are more deserving as Zelda reps (and even so, Zelda only deserves 5 reps this game though it would have been nice to cut Toon Link and Sheik for those 2) while Bowser Jr is more deserving as a villain rep. As for Mario reps, I believe the series deserves 7 and Daisy and Bowser Jr should take priority while Toad should have to wait out for Smash 5.

Personality traits don't factor into their viability, just saying. Toad is also more deserving than Daisy.

 

[Lumastar]

In terms of priority for Smash for me.

Toad > Paper Mario=Bowser Jr. >>> Waluigi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone else

I think Paper Mario should be lower but otherwise I agree

He would be the perfect RPG rep. That's why some people want him.

 

[Nysic]

Mine is pretty much

Paper Mario > Toad >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone else

And for Zelda

Impa > Ghirahim >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone else

 

[Ray Trace]

I'd rather have an actual character from the RPG games

Like I don't know, Sir Grodus, Fawful, something

 

[3D Player 2004]

I'd rather not let content from the RPGs come into other games, ruining them.

 

[LeftyGreenMario]

Paper Mario is an actual character from the RPG games.

Dr. Mario is a better choice than the RPG games because he represents the even-more obscure part of the Mario series. :P

 

[Ray Trace]

Paper Mario is an actual character from the RPG games.

Dr. Mario is a better choice than the RPG games because he represents the even-more obscure part of the Mario series. :P

I'm not asking for your opinion on Paper Mario. You support him simply because he's Mario, in the same way you support Metal Mario and Dr. Mario

 

[Lumastar]

I'd rather have an actual character from the RPG games

Like I don't know, Sir Grodus, Fawful, something

Fawful would work, but the chances are slim. Paper Mario would work because he could use elements from the RPGs like hammer attacks, action commands, and partners. Also:

 

[Ray Trace]

There could be other characters using Paper Mario's attacks

Like Ness using Paula's attacks

 

[LeftyGreenMario]

Paper Mario is an actual character from the RPG games.

Dr. Mario is a better choice than the RPG games because he represents the even-more obscure part of the Mario series. :P

I'm not asking for your opinion on Paper Mario. You support him simply because he's Mario, in the same way you support Metal Mario and Dr. Mario

Well, my bias shows, obviously. I think I've admitted that several times.

 

[Fawfulthegreat64]

My list of wanted Mario reps goes like this:

Paper Mario or another RPG rep>Waluigi>Bowser Jr.>>>>any other Mario character>>>Daisy=Toad

 

[Lumastar]

There could be other characters using Paper Mario's attacks

Like Ness using Paula's attacks

There is an explanation for that.

 

[Ray Trace]

There could be other characters using Paper Mario's attacks

Like Ness using Paula's attacks

There is an explanation for that.

There is!?

My list of wanted Mario reps goes like this:

Paper Mario or another RPG rep>Waluigi>Bowser Jr.>>>>any other Mario character>>>Daisy=Toad

I hope no one confuses "wants" with "expected"

Because Baby Mario and Baby Luigi would most certainly top this

 

[LeftyGreenMario]

Well, yeah, but it's not super complicated or anything.

Just "said character learned Paper Mario's abilities and applied them to the battlefield".

My list of wanted Mario reps goes like this:

Paper Mario or another RPG rep>Waluigi>Bowser Jr.>>>>any other Mario character>>>Daisy=Toad

You really want someone like Pink Donkey Kong Jr. over Toad? Well... okay. I know you hate Toad and all, but I'm not going around hoping that Yoshi won't be in.