Super Smash Bros. for Wii U & 3DS Discussion

[Zae]

ugh yeah palutena has like

the slowest attacks ever, even ganondorf is faster.

 

[Weasel]

and people say mega man is awkward

 

[Megamario15]

And Luigi...

Wait, he is awkward

 

[GalacticPetey]

Luigi is actually really good this time around.

 

[Zae]

Luigi is actually really good this time around.

The only game he was bad in was brawl so....

 

[Meta Knight]

I like using Mega Man

 

[Weasel]

*high five*

 

[Zae]

i dont like his smash attacks

 

[Nysic]

Mega Man is pretty good, I love his bair and neutral special.

 

[Anser]

Palutena is not garbage >: ( She's a really good fighter, actually. Her one problem is how much starting lag and ending lag her attacks have.

 

[LeftyGreenMario]

At least a lot of us can agree on Zelda.

And maybe Mii Swordsfighter. I heard that it's AWFUL.

 

[Megamario15]

Bowser Jr. seems to be much better than many other characters on the flip side. He's even rather overpowered with his fall state.

 

[Ray Trace]

what?

bowser jr. is a painfully average character, competitive wise

 

[GalacticPetey]

The tier list according to /r/smashbros. Don't make it too literally but there are some valid placings.

 

[Megamario15]

Mario's best Smash performance

 

[Tyrell Badd]

Palutena is garbage without customs. She only has one attacking special without them. :/

Autoreticle is shit. Warp is bleh. Reflect and Counter are ok, but she doesn't need two support moves especially when all her smash attacks are kinda slow.

In conclusion, Palutena should only be played with if Playing with Friends with Customs on.

Also, Pikachu is considered high tier? I mean, I'm not a smash expert and don't give two shits about tiers, but I personally felt Pikachu was better in Brawl. His attacks in SM4SH don't really have that "oomph" imo, especially thunder.

Speaking of characters that lack "oomph" in their attacks now...*stares at a picture of King dedede with a single tear in his eye*

 

[SonicMario]

Wow, all of my Brawl Mains (And in with some conjunction Smash 4 as well) are in A Tier so far. That's pretty awesome. Other characters I've been using are Shulk, Link, Falco, and Mii Brawler. And they're not doing too bad either.

 

[LeftyGreenMario]

Palutena is garbage without customs. She only has one attacking special without them. :/

Autoreticle is *bleep*. Warp is bleh. Reflect and Counter are ok, but she doesn't need two support moves especially when all her smash attacks are kinda slow.

In conclusion, Palutena should only be played with if Playing with Friends with Customs on.

Palutena might work, on paper, better in 2 v. 2 due to the support/defensive nature of her default special moves, and that her attacks cover quite some range.

Dr. Mario's position makes me cry. Doc might work much better with equipment due to his god awful recovery.

 

[Megamario15]

Palutena is garbage without customs. She only has one attacking special without them. :/

Autoreticle is *bleep*. Warp is bleh. Reflect and Counter are ok, but she doesn't need two support moves especially when all her smash attacks are kinda slow.

In conclusion, Palutena should only be played with if Playing with Friends with Customs on.

Palutena might work, on paper, better in 2 v. 2 due to the support/defensive nature of her default special moves, and that her attacks cover quite some range.

Dr. Mario's position makes me cry. Doc might work much better with equipment due to his god awful recovery.

And his fair would certainly bring him up... if he could recover from it.

 

[Cirdec]

I agree with S rank but not much with other tiers. Link, Megaman and Olimar are too high, especially Olimar, this character is terrible.

 

[Turboo]

Also, Pikachu is considered high tier? I mean, I'm not a smash expert and don't give two shits about tiers, but I personally felt Pikachu was better in Brawl. His attacks in SM4SH don't really have that "oomph" imo, especially thunder.

thunder is better at comboing into meteor smashes and stuff now so thats probably part of it

also doc's fair has been nerfed into the ground really. theres hardly anything that makes it worth using since it has a (really big) shitbox rather than sweetspotting everywhere now

 

[GalacticPetey]

With ESAM, one of the best Brawl/Smash 4 Pikachu's retiring, we may not see anyone tap into Pikachu's potential.

 

[Ray Trace]

Olimar are too high, especially Olimar, this character is terrible.

no he's not

he's a bit weaker in this game than brawl but he still has his moveset

 

[Tyrell Badd]

Olimar is one of those characters you need to spend quite some time with to have a feel for him. That isn't to say that he didn't get nerfed to hell in Smash 4, because he did (thanks 3ds version), but he can still be usable. I hope they bring him back to his former glory when Smash 5 is released in 2021.

Palutena might work, on paper, better in 2 v. 2 due to the support/defensive nature of her default special moves, and that her attacks cover quite some range.

Dr. Mario's position makes me cry. Doc might work much better with equipment due to his god awful recovery.

Yeah, Palutena could work really well in doubles as more of a support/auto-reticle spammer, especially since her reflect wall moves slightly forward. Could help with the Sheik Burst Grenade and ZSS paralyzer spam.

thunder is better at comboing into meteor smashes and stuff now so thats probably part of it

Yeah, I probably need to use Pikachu more since I don't think I've really spent too much time with him in Smash 4. I used to play with Pikachu a lot in Melee and Brawl so I have a soft-spot for him.

 

[SonicMario]

I'm just pleasantly surprised to see where Sonic is at currently. Good or bad, I was going to main Sonic anyway. But it's good to know he's at least in the Top half of the character list competitively.