Super Smash Bros. for Wii U & 3DS Discussion

[Meta Knight]

The tier list according to /r/smashbros. Don't make it too literally but there are some valid placings.

I get that they wanted to nerf me but they didn't have to do so THAT much

 

[LeftyGreenMario]

Well, I guess we'll leave it to modders to actually balance the game. I think they know more than Sakurai.

I'm not too surprised at Charizard's listing, but I expected Kirby to at least outrank Ganondork and Smaus. Or maybe everyone else in that regard, lol.

 

[GalacticPetey]

Olimar are too high, especially Olimar, this character is terrible.

no he's not

he's a bit weaker in this game than brawl but he still has his moveset

I was awful with Olimar in Brawl and I hated his play style but I still realized he was good character.

Don't know enough about Smash 4 Oliamr, but he did good at Apex.

Well, I guess we'll leave it to modders to actually balance the game. I think they know more than Sakurai.

I'm not too surprised at Charizard's listing, but I expected Kirby to at least outrank Ganondork and Smaus. Or maybe everyone else in that regard, lol.

Again, this was just a community vote by Reddit. In a few months it will probably look completely different. Though the top characters will probably stay pretty similar. Unless of course they get nerfed in a patch. And who knows what Mewtwo will bring.

 

[Nysic]

Not too many surprises here. I'm a bit disappointed that Wario is that low, but I'm super glad that R.O.B. is that high.

 

[Glitchy Bowser Jr.]

I am pleasantly suprised that Ness, one of my mains is so high, especially since he was so low in other games.

 

[Smashley]

My current mains, Villager and Lucario, are in pretty good spots.

 

[Anser]

Palutena is garbage without customs. She only has one attacking special without them. :/

Autoreticle is shit. Warp is bleh. Reflect and Counter are ok, but she doesn't need two support moves especially when all her smash attacks are kinda slow.

In conclusion, Palutena should only be played with if Playing with Friends with Customs on.

Also, Pikachu is considered high tier? I mean, I'm not a smash expert and don't give two shits about tiers, but I personally felt Pikachu was better in Brawl. His attacks in SM4SH don't really have that "oomph" imo, especially thunder.

Speaking of characters that lack "oomph" in their attacks now...*stares at a picture of King dedede with a single tear in his eye*

DDD: Autoreticle is a good move to stop enemies from their tracks (unless they're too quick and small like Pikachu or Little Mac). I don't know, I've gotten good results with that move (in For Fun, that is). Warp IS kind of bleh, but it's good because it leaves the player questioning where she will next appear. It would be better if it did some damage like Zelda's Farore's Wind, though. Reflect is really cool because it lasts a good amount of time and it pushes enemies back. I've managed to stop several people from coming back to the stage with that move. And yes, Counter isn't that great, but it always feels good when you land it. I don't know, I'm not a huge fan of her custom moves. I do disagree with Palutena's position in the tier list, though. Come on, she's not THAT bad. She should be in B- at the least.

I'm glad Rosalina and Yoshi are that high :D But what the heck, Charizard isn't that bad. I've won many battles against Diddy Kongs and other high tier characters with him. It's just because not enough people are using him at tournaments. Charizard should be at least in B- too.

 

[Glitchy Bowser Jr.]

My moveset for Palutena is completely different compared to the default.

B: Explosive Flame
Side-B: Super Speed
Up-B: Jump Glide
Down-B: Celestial Fireworks

 

[MarioKartTracker]

Anyone here beat classic at 9.0 without dying?

 

[GalacticPetey]

Palutena is garbage without customs. She only has one attacking special without them. :/

Autoreticle is shit. Warp is bleh. Reflect and Counter are ok, but she doesn't need two support moves especially when all her smash attacks are kinda slow.

In conclusion, Palutena should only be played with if Playing with Friends with Customs on.

Also, Pikachu is considered high tier? I mean, I'm not a smash expert and don't give two shits about tiers, but I personally felt Pikachu was better in Brawl. His attacks in SM4SH don't really have that "oomph" imo, especially thunder.

Speaking of characters that lack "oomph" in their attacks now...*stares at a picture of King dedede with a single tear in his eye*

DDD: Autoreticle is a good move to stop enemies from their tracks (unless they're too quick and small like Pikachu or Little Mac). I don't know, I've gotten good results with that move (in For Fun, that is). Warp IS kind of bleh, but it's good because it leaves the player questioning where she will next appear. It would be better if it did some damage like Zelda's Farore's Wind, though. Reflect is really cool because it lasts a good amount of time and it pushes enemies back. I've managed to stop several people from coming back to the stage with that move. And yes, Counter isn't that great, but it always feels good when you land it. I don't know, I'm not a huge fan of her custom moves. I do disagree with Palutena's position in the tier list, though. Come on, she's not THAT bad. She should be in B- at the least.

I'm glad Rosalina and Yoshi are that high :D But what the heck, Charizard isn't that bad. I've won many battles against Diddy Kongs and other high tier characters with him. It's just because not enough people are using him at tournaments. Charizard should be at least in B- too.

The Diddy players you're encountering likely aren't high level players. When Charizard does well in a major tournamnet, we'll talk.

 

[Ray Trace]

Anyone here beat classic at 9.0 without dying?

no

---- master core

 

[Cirdec]

I beat it with no life lost on Wii U. Took too many tries.

 

[Glitchy Bowser Jr.]

Anyone here beat classic at 9.0 without dying?

I'm pretty sure ice does it with every character.

 

[Ray Trace]

Anyone here beat classic at 9.0 without dying?

I'm pretty sure ice does it with every character.

does he do it without dying?

 

[Icemario]

Anyone here beat classic at 9.0 without dying?

I'm pretty sure ice does it with every character.

does he do it without dying?

If they mean that by not lose a single stock, I've done that with seven characters.

Otherwise yes, with every character.

 

[EctoBiologist]

God bless miiverse

 

[ernesth100]

I finally beat Classic...on Effortless...still though pretty cool.

 

[Fawfulthegreat64]

I finally beat Classic...on Effortless...still though pretty cool.

... "Finally?"

uh, wow.

 

[SonicMario]

I finally beat Classic...on Effortless...still though pretty cool.

I er... hope that "finally" means you just did effortless difficulty (Intensity 0.0-0.9) for the heck of it after such a long time owning the game rather then it actually took you more then one try...

 

[YoshiGo99]

Has anyone actually done the challenge to Use Lucina and defeat 8 Miis in Cruel Smash, I got six a few times but I just can't do it!

 

[Fawfulthegreat64]

>cruel smash


lolnope

 

[Megamario15]

Has anyone actually done the challenge to Use Lucina and defeat 8 Miis in Cruel Smash, I got six a few times but I just can't do it!

I don't use Lucina at all, but I can get a few with Doc.

Don't focus on challenges. Focus on beating the crap out of your friends. That's much more fun.

 

[YoshiGo99]

Has anyone actually done the challenge to Use Lucina and defeat 8 Miis in Cruel Smash, I got six a few times but I just can't do it!

I don't use Lucina at all, but I can get a few with Doc.

Don't focus on challenges. Focus on beating the crap out of your friends. That's much more fun.

I don't have friends I do but we are always busy so it's hard to find time to play Smash
Yeah I know but you clear 2 challenges, if you do it with Lucina and I always get really annoyed if I start something and can't finish it. I have been doing a lot of online but I am not that good with it yet, still need time to get used to the Gamepad until I get a Gamecube adapter.

 

[Megamario15]

Has anyone actually done the challenge to Use Lucina and defeat 8 Miis in Cruel Smash, I got six a few times but I just can't do it!

I don't use Lucina at all, but I can get a few with Doc.

Don't focus on challenges. Focus on beating the crap out of your friends. That's much more fun.

I don't have friends I do but we are always busy so it's hard to find time to play Smash
Yeah I know but you clear 2 challenges, if you do it with Lucina and I always get really annoyed if I start something and can't finish it. I have been doing a lot of online but I am not that good with it yet, still need time to get used to the Gamepad until I get a Gamecube adapter.

See me elsewhere, and we'll talk about you vs me.

 

[Lumastar]

God bless miiverse

Japanese Miiverse is better than American Miiverse.