Unpopular opinions about the Super Smash Bros series.

Groose said:
I am sick and tired of line used by Shulk: "I'm really felling it", I get pissed off every time I hear this cheesy line. Used to like it but now it infuriates me.
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I never liked it in the first place

Or Shulk... or any non-Mario character
 
GalacticPetey said:
I don't mind that most of the playable Pokemon are from Gen 1. The game is supposed to be a collection of Nintendo's all-stars. A lot of the most popular Pokemon are from the first generation. That's just the way it is.
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I'd disagree and point to Shulk, Ice Climbers, Pit, Fire Emblem, and Ness when someone is arguing about "it's a game of Nintendo's All-Stars". I'd argue that it's more about Nintendo's history as a whole, and presenting one side of Pokemon, the earliest side, especially since Pokemon is divided by generation, kind of makes it feel lopsided. Every generation has its share of popular Pokemon, too, so it's not like they're horribly obscure either.

In fact, I'd support something like Huntail or Porygon2 being playable despite the obvious outcry because... well, it's more interesting that way, IMO.
 
Mario Party X said:
GalacticPetey said:
I don't mind that most of the playable Pokemon are from Gen 1. The game is supposed to be a collection of Nintendo's all-stars. A lot of the most popular Pokemon are from the first generation. That's just the way it is.
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I'd disagree and point to Shulk, Ice Climbers, Pit, Fire Emblem, and Ness when someone is arguing about "it's a game of Nintendo's All-Stars". I'd argue that it's more about Nintendo's history as a whole, and presenting one side of Pokemon, the earliest side, especially since Pokemon is divided by generation, kind of makes it feel lopsided. Every generation has its share of popular Pokemon, too, so it's not like they're horribly obscure either.

In fact, I'd support something like Huntail or Porygon2 being playable despite the obvious outcry because... well, it's more interesting that way, IMO.
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You're a bit late on that one, buddy!

Anyway, I think that the four Gen. 1 Pokémon we have now should all stay in future installments. We have the mascot, one of the original 12, arguably the most well-known Gen. 1 Pokémon, and one of the first three starters (I would say Charizard should be replaced, but we have Greninja for Gen. 6 and Venusaur is just Venusaur). However, I think that's enough. I want to see more Pokémon from other generations. Lucario is notable enough to stay, and he represents the style from his time very well. Greninja is arguable. However, considering the fact that the next installment of Smash will likely hit around the eighth generation of Pokémon, he would fit the Lucario bill very nicely. I want the next Pokémon newcomer to be from either generation 7 or 8, like Lucario and Greninja beforehand. Unless we get two Pokémon newcomers (unlikely, but possible) I'd rather the new gen be repped with a good character that represents the era of Pokémon that installment of Smash passes by. Maybe it could be a Grass-type this time.
 
Dinomic Duo said:
I would like Baby Characters.

Baby Mario, please
and exploding Baby Luigi
(I really can't get over that, can I)
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i really just can't take anything you say seriously anymore
 
Every character can be good if used to full potential, the fact is using Dr. Mario is putting yourself at disadvantage.
 
I'm still one to say that if it weren't for Dark Pit's inclusion. Dr. Mario would be the worst idea for a character inclusion in the series. Since while yes, it's all for padding. But there is potential for characters that could still be padding but still feel like they've earned their own spot.

In 3DS/Wii U, I suppose Dr. Mario is actually less clonish thanks to the fact he has the Mario Tornado in tact and gives the option for people who prefer that to use Dr. Mario (Even if so far it looks like Regular Mario outclasses Dr. Mario unlike in Melee where Doc was slightly better).

Though that's the case with all the big clones in this game. Besides Doc, Dark Pit may be the closest to being as good as regular Pit (Mostly because like 98% of his moveset is exactly the same) but there is a little bit enough to make a difference but it ends up that it makes Pit the better choice. Lucina can basically be described as Marth for Dummies, she doesn't have the tipper mechanic. As her hits remain the same no matter where you hit somebody with her sword. If you can learn how to use Marth's tippers though, Lucina quickly becomes the inferior choice fast.
 
Dinomic Duo said:
I would like Baby Characters.

Baby Mario, please
and exploding Baby Luigi
(I really can't get over that, can I)
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I would too
 
I support Baby Bros. as an Ice Climber type character and Yoshi rep, but since ICs got cut for hardware limitations, I won't count on it.

I guess you could have solo Baby Mario. But I think I'd rather have Kamek for a Yoshi rep.
 
GalacticPetey said:
I support Baby Bros. as an Ice Climber type character and Yoshi rep, but since ICs got cut for hardware limitations, I won't count on it.

I guess you could have solo Baby Mario. But I think I'd rather have Kamek for a Yoshi rep.
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Solo Baby Mario would work as long as Baby Luigi is a selectable alt via Alph/Koopaling
 
GalacticPetey said:
I support Baby Bros. as an Ice Climber type character and Yoshi rep, but since ICs got cut for hardware limitations, I won't count on it.

I guess you could have solo Baby Mario. But I think I'd rather have Kamek for a Yoshi rep.
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I really don't think that hardware will be an issue anymore when the next installment comes out. Unless they are seen as pointless at that point, the Ice Climbers will likely be back.

I actually don't want to see the Baby Bros. The idea comes from a now decade-old title, their moveset would likely not rep the Yoshi series outside of maybe like one move, there is a much better character choice if they were Yoshi reps, there are many better character choices if they were Mario reps, and they simply don't seem important enough to include.

Baby Luigi said:
GalacticPetey said:
I support Baby Bros. as an Ice Climber type character and Yoshi rep, but since ICs got cut for hardware limitations, I won't count on it.

I guess you could have solo Baby Mario. But I think I'd rather have Kamek for a Yoshi rep.
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Solo Baby Mario would work as long as Baby Luigi is a selectable alt via Alph/Koopaling
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A bit better, but I still don't agree. We don't need another Mario, and if we do get another one I'd rather have Paper Mario, Doc Mario, or even one of the more fleshed-out power-up forms (i.e. Tanooki Mario).
 
I think the majority of characters should have unique alts. Like how Wario, Villager, Zero Suit Samus, Wii Fit Trainer, Robin, etc had alts that were meaningful and took more effort than a simple recolor. It's fine for a character known for having color variants (Yoshi, Kirby) to have that as their alts (though Yoshi could at least have Boshi and Kirby could maybe have some transformation hats that aren't based on other characters) but since when is Luigi a character known for appearing in different colors? At least Mario had one meaningful alt (the patriotic clothing) but Luigi's alts were all just generic recolors. Why not Mr. L? Dr. Luigi (if not an alt for Dr. Mario)?

Bowser also isn't known for having different colors. Neither is Peach. Maybe two or three of their alts could be powerups (Cat Bowser, Boomerang Peach, etc) and the rest could be meaningful in other ways such as Dry Bowser, Dark Bowser, Dreamy Bowser, Shadow Peach, and the Daisy alt could actually look like Daisy. (even though I don't give a flying duck about Daisy to be honest)

Also, I probably said it before but Waluigi is far more deserving to be in SSB than Toad.
 
Lumastar said:
I actually don't want to see the Baby Bros. The idea comes from a now decade-old title, their moveset would likely not rep the Yoshi series outside of maybe like one move, there is a much better character choice if they were Yoshi reps, there are many better character choices if they were Mario reps, and they simply don't seem important enough to include.
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What's wrong with having a moveset coming from a "decade-old" title? We have characters that are literally DECADES old since their last game came out? The age of a moveset does not determine "moveset potential", if a character adds something new to the game, who the crap gives a hoot about the age of it. Seriously that's like the first time I ever heard that argument.

I agree that Toad should get in before them but there isn't much Mario reps left to include. If you say Daisy and Waluigi are better Mario reps, eh, that's debatable.

Kamek just feels...generic. Like, not in the Toad or Yoshi or Pokemon sense, he's literally a generic enemy with a name. That's how I see him. I understand why people would want him because he plays a major role in stuff and he can have a fun moveset and all but as I said, he feels like a generic enemy. If later games updated him to have his own personality and stuff maybe I can seriously consider him but as of now, I'm not fond of including him as a Yoshi rep.

Baby Luigi said:
A bit better, but I still don't agree. We don't need another Mario, and if we do get another one I'd rather have Paper Mario, Doc Mario, or even one of the more fleshed-out power-up forms (i.e. Tanooki Mario).
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So you would rather have this incarnation of Mario who is literally Mario but in another art-style, which sounds like an arbitrary reason to make a separate character? Hell I probably even support Tanooki Mario AND Dr. Mario in the same game over Paper Mario; Tanooki Mario is at the very least his OWN selectable character in Mario Kart 8.
 
Dinomic Duo said:
I actually thought about the Dr. Luigi thing before. That would work as an alt for Dr. Mario.
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I don't really like the idea of Dr. Luigi being a Dr. Mario skin. It's like making Luigi a Mario skin. Now, you could make Dr. Luigi a skin for Luigi, but then you have the question of why does Dr. Mario get to be a unique fighter but Dr. Luigi doesn't. You can't make Dr. Mario a skin because he has unique properties like his down air, tornado, pills, f-smash, and it would be kinda insulting for a once separate character to be reduced to a costume,. And you certainly wouldn't make Dr. Luigi a separate character either because he has no point in being there.
 
Dinomic Duo said:
GalacticPetey said:
and it would be kinda insulting for a once separate character to be reduced to a costume.
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What about Alph and the Koopalings?
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I can kinda agree on Alph but the Koopalings being alt is not a role model I look upon with fondness.
 
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