Mario's Map

Lol if you're trying to use Game Theory as proof for your argument, you're better off arguing somewhere else.
 
Rayquaza said:
Lol if you're trying to use Game Theory as proof for your argument, you're better off arguing somewhere else.
GEOGRAPHICAL EVIDENCE
SHALL I CONTACT THE WIKI FOR CONFIRMATION OF THE QUOTE!!!
 
Game Theory is not a legitimate authority on Mario Lore. They make theories, it's even in the name. You'd have to take this to Nintendo, and their usual M.O. regarding shit like this is "lol, why do you care? Just jump on the mushrooms you silly."

Also, calm down maybe?

Mini-challenge: Try to say the words "Mario Lore" with a straight face. It's harder than it sounds.



PrinceLarryKoopa88 said:
SHALL I CONTACT THE WIKI FOR CONFIRMATION OF THE QUOTE!!!

Please do. They work a lot and could use a laugh or two.
 
PrinceLarryKoopa88 said:
Super Star Saga had bowser's castle to the left of the map.

We never saw where his castle was in that game. Just a flying castle brought there by Bowletta.
 
Why won't you guys ever consider that all the time Mario was heading right, he was going left.
 
Because there is no evidence of it.
 
PrinceLarryKoopa88 said:
There's plenty of stuff that tells that Bowser is west of Peach.

Gonna need proof of that.
 
1.) According to Super Mario Wiki, "The Beanbean Kingdom is a major kingdom which shares its northeastern border with the Mushroom Kingdom."
On the map you can see that Bowser's Castle is on the upper left corner. You can also see that there is a silhouette of a castle on the Northeast top section of the map. Most likey, the silhouette castle is Peach's castle (Mario Bros were headed from Peachs castle in the Mushroom Kingdom to the Beanbean Kingdom [look at quote] and landed in stardust fields which is closer to the silhouette).
So if Peach's castle is on the northeast, then Bowser's is on the Northwest.

2.) In New Super Mario Bros U. the airships head to Peach's Castle from the left (and they're facing right), and the giant mechahand thingy grabs and throws the Mario bros back left to Acorn Plains. Let's say that the map is facing north, that means the Airships would have had to be somewhere on the Western half of the Castle for the hand to have an angle to throw the plumbers to Acorn Plains.

3.) The climates of NSMBU and Mario and Luigi: Paper Jam are similar.
First, the top three areas of NSMBU are the Layer Cake Desert, which is a desert, Frosted Glaciers, which is snowy mountain, and Peach's Castle which is surrounded in plains. If you look carefully, the plains seem to go behind Frosted Glacier.
Now check this out.
Mario and Luigi Paper Jam going in the direction of right has the Sunbeam Plains, which goes behind the Snowy Mt. Burr, and follow into Doop Doop Dunes, which is a desert. Right from Doop Doop Dunes is Bowser's Castle.

In NSMBU Peach's castle is on the upper most of a big landmass.

In ML:PJ Peach's Castle is lower most part of a big landmass.

Doop Doop Dunes/Layer Cake Desert: Desert

Sunbeam Plains/Plains surrounding Peach's Castle: Plains

Mt Burr/ Frosted Glaciers: Snowy Mountain Region

What I'm getting at is that the map for Paper Jam is basically on the other side of the mountain/glaciers facing the opposite direction of the NSMBU map.

YOUR TURN!
 
All of that is moot because it's a bunch of assumptions in that no one knows what direction on the compass the cutscenes and such are facing.
 
Upwards on the screen doesn't mean that it's north on a map, and Bowser's castle is inconsistent in location. It's also been established that he owns multiple castles in different areas, and the TRUE Bowser's castle could be anywhere.
 
PrinceLarryKoopa88 said:
1.) According to Super Mario Wiki, "The Beanbean Kingdom is a major kingdom which shares its northeastern border with the Mushroom Kingdom."
On the map you can see that Bowser's Castle is on the upper left corner. You can also see that there is a silhouette of a castle on the Northeast top section of the map. Most likey, the silhouette castle is Peach's castle (Mario Bros were headed from Peachs castle in the Mushroom Kingdom to the Beanbean Kingdom [look at quote] and landed in stardust fields which is closer to the silhouette).
So if Peach's castle is on the northeast, then Bowser's is on the Northwest.

2.) In New Super Mario Bros U. the airships head to Peach's Castle from the left (and they're facing right), and the giant mechahand thingy grabs and throws the Mario bros back left to Acorn Plains. Let's say that the map is facing north, that means the Airships would have had to be somewhere on the Western half of the Castle for the hand to have an angle to throw the plumbers to Acorn Plains.

3.) The climates of NSMBU and Mario and Luigi: Paper Jam are similar.
First, the top three areas of NSMBU are the Layer Cake Desert, which is a desert, Frosted Glaciers, which is snowy mountain, and Peach's Castle which is surrounded in plains. If you look carefully, the plains seem to go behind Frosted Glacier.
Now check this out.
Mario and Luigi Paper Jam going in the direction of right has the Sunbeam Plains, which goes behind the Snowy Mt. Burr, and follow into Doop Doop Dunes, which is a desert. Right from Doop Doop Dunes is Bowser's Castle.

In NSMBU Peach's castle is on the upper most of a big landmass.

In ML:PJ Peach's Castle is lower most part of a big landmass.

Doop Doop Dunes/Layer Cake Desert: Desert

Sunbeam Plains/Plains surrounding Peach's Castle: Plains

Mt Burr/ Frosted Glaciers: Snowy Mountain Region

What I'm getting at is that the map for Paper Jam is basically on the other side of the mountain/glaciers facing the opposite direction of the NSMBU map.

YOUR TURN!

It's a flying castle that went decided to bombard the kingdom from the west, it even crashes in the east when it gets blown up.

Try again.
 
PrinceLarryKoopa88 said:
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YOUR TURN!

You are basically ignoring all the points that have already been made in this thread, probably because they're completely shredding your theory.

If you are looking for counterpoints to your theory, I suggest re-reading everything everyone else has already said. Otherwise there is no point in continuing to reply to you.
 
The only reason we use jargon like "northeastern" on the map is to help readers locate where the locations of the areas we are describing are. Otherwise, there's no compass on the map, therefore, it's impossible to actually confirm the direction of the locations.

Even the sun and moon rising and setting don't help with this. Mushroom Kingdom's planet could possibly be spinning backward for all we know.

Mushroom Kingdom's locations change in every game. And why shouldn't it? The map layouts and settings placements aren't its primary focus.
 
Knowing the series, the tectonic plates of the mushroom whatever planet are probably tied to the backs of giant turtles and zip around randomly all the time.
 
And Bowser's castle is still clearly east.
 
Besides, the Mario & Luigi Series isn't very strong proof as in every game featuring the Mushroom Kingdom, the location of lands around Peach's Castle/Bowser's castle changes. For example:

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What the developers were going for was mainly "we made these areas, now time to put them together in a cohesive way" instead of any internal consistency in the series areawise
 
I'm believing that it's west. The only damn direction I feel that suits it. You'll see. It's better when its on the west- Just you wait.
 
PrinceLarryKoopa88 said:
I'm believing that it's west. The only damn direction I feel that suits it. You'll see. It's better when its on the west- Just you wait.

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I don't think there's really any actual proof that can suffice to support anyone's theories about the actual geography of the Mushroom Kingdom, so I'm not really sure why you still won't realize that your theory is not the superior one when there's been so much presented to break it down and defy it. I think it's a heck of a lot better to keep an open mind about this and figure every possibility or theory is probable in this scenario rather than offering really bad counterarguments and then not even giving a thought to the arguments presented to you, Larry.

There's probably not even much consistency at all in the locations, given Billy's post. I don't think there's an actual way you can logically mark down every single location and direction it is in.
 
Kirstie Maldonado said:
PrinceLarryKoopa88 said:
I'm believing that it's west. The only damn direction I feel that suits it. You'll see. It's better when its on the west- Just you wait.

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I don't think there's really any actual proof that can suffice to support anyone's theories about the actual geography of the Mushroom Kingdom, so I'm not really sure why you still won't realize that your theory is not the superior one when there's been so much presented to break it down and defy it. I think it's a heck of a lot better to keep an open mind about this and figure every possibility or theory is probable in this scenario rather than offering really bad counterarguments and then not even giving a thought to the arguments presented to you, Larry.

There's probably not even much consistency at all in the locations, given Billy's post. I don't think there's an actual way you can logically mark down every single location and direction it is in.
But the climates.....
 
What does climate have to do with cardinal directions?
 
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