Mario Sports Superstars

The worst comments I receive for the videos on my mods are just plain nonsense and I delete those anyway. ;)

But I dunno, I felt like complaining about the complaints of this game. Like "baaaaaawww where's the "''soul''''!" or "remember when nintendo made GOOD sports gaemzzzz!!!???"
 
Kids these days, think they were around for the glory days of Mario sports games. I bet they never even played NES Open Tournament Golf!
 
Ugghghgh I'm trying to find the new screenshots that aren't uploaded to the wiki yet. The one with the derpy pinball mode thing.
 
I think the GCN era was Nintendo's experimental era before they went back to the past. The Mario Sports games have gone to being very simple with Nintendo's attitude.
 
Tuxedo Ridley said:
Kids these days, think they were around for the glory days of Mario sports games. I bet they never even played NES Open Tournament Golf!
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Who forget the good days of Mario Tennis: Power Tour, where Wario and Yoshi weren't present (not that I'm complaining for the latter) or Mario Tennis for Game Boy where Mario was an unlockable character and in those games, Mario characters take up, like, literally a sixth of the roster of 36 characters?
 
You You Were Peeings are gonna get the game before we Arm Wreckings do.

March 10, 2017 for Europe.

Why can't the game be released on March 10 everywhere?????
 
Why do i have a feeling that some of us might end up having a slightly ''early'' copy of this game ...

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Also , Olympic Rio games files are trash because the sound data is compressed like theres no end. I hate Sega.

Just throwing that in there randomly.
 
Baby Luigi said:
You You Were Peeings are gonna get the game before we Arm Wreckings do.

March 10, 2017 for Europe.
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When will Nintendo break free from the arbitrary release date bullshit? It's pissing me off.
 
Yeah, we don't need any of this rushed crap like what we got with Ultra Smash. Power Tennis was the last really great Mario Tennis game. It had more time and effort put into it's development. It had that variety. It had those Power Shots that no other Mario tennis game had. Ultra Smash didn't. We don't any more rushed garbage. Ultra Smash truly defied Miyamoto's statement of "A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad".
 
Maria Renard said:
Yeah, we don't need any of this rushed crap like what we got with Ultra Smash. Power Tennis was the last really great Mario Tennis game. It had more time and effort put into it's development. It had that variety. It had those Power Shots that no other Mario tennis game had. Ultra Smash didn't. We don't any more rushed garbage. Ultra Smash truly defied Miyamoto's statement of "A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad".
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To be fair, I don't think having to systematically watch an animation each time and then having an overpowered shot or defensive move is the direction I want for the series, the rest of the game still looked to flollow the structure of the N64 game with more intriguing features and characters so it should have been awesome anyway, if I played it.
 
Maria Renard said:
Yeah, we don't need any of this rushed crap like what we got with Ultra Smash. Power Tennis was the last really great Mario Tennis game. It had more time and effort put into it's development. It had that variety. It had those Power Shots that no other Mario tennis game had. Ultra Smash didn't. We don't any more rushed garbage. Ultra Smash truly defied Miyamoto's statement of "A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad".
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Dude, can you like, stop mindlessly crapping on Ultra Trash? I've played the game, and with the way you're going on about that game, it doesn't appear you have. It's definitely not the strongest game in the series. It's hugely flawed, yes. But with the way you're reacting, you'd think it's the worst video game ever created.

You've been repeating the same thing about this, multiple times in this thread, this forum, and even GameFAQs. Bring up how Ultra Trash is trash garbage cancer, then compare it to how Mario Power Tennis is Jesus and god and our messiah, and then don't add anything else to the conversation on top of all of that. I'm tired of it. We're all tired of it.
 
I just want my bat back.
 
Baby Luigi said:
Maria Renard said:
Yeah, we don't need any of this rushed crap like what we got with Ultra Smash. Power Tennis was the last really great Mario Tennis game. It had more time and effort put into it's development. It had that variety. It had those Power Shots that no other Mario tennis game had. Ultra Smash didn't. We don't any more rushed garbage. Ultra Smash truly defied Miyamoto's statement of "A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad".
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Dude, can you like, stop mindlessly crapping on Ultra Trash? I've played the game, and with the way you're going on about that game, it doesn't appear you have. It's definitely not the strongest game in the series. It's hugely flawed, yes. But with the way you're reacting, you'd think it's the worst video game ever created.

You've been repeating the same thing about this, multiple times in this thread, this forum, and even GameFAQs. Bring up how Ultra Trash is trash garbage cancer, then compare it to how Mario Power Tennis is Jesus and god and our messiah, and then don't add anything else to the conversation on top of all of that. I'm tired of it. We're all tired of it.
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All right, I'll stop bashing Ultra Smash and repeating myself for the umpteenth time. Besides, I was telling the cold hard truth. Sure Ultra Smash is a functionally fully playable game and isn't unplayable when compared to say something like Bug Rugs: Over the Rainbow Road Racing (which is my endearment name for Big Rigs, which itself isn't even a game) or Midnight Race Club: Supercharged! (which is literally a slightly improved Big Rigs) or any other game that is glitchy like say Superman 64.

I don't think it is the worst video game ever. That honor goes to Bug Rugs: Over the Rainbow Road Racing. I do have to say that it is easily the worst Mario Tennis game when compared to the other Mario Tennis games.

That's all. I will never iterate it ever again or try not to do it again.

Mister Wu said:
Maria Renard said:
Yeah, we don't need any of this rushed crap like what we got with Ultra Smash. Power Tennis was the last really great Mario Tennis game. It had more time and effort put into it's development. It had that variety. It had those Power Shots that no other Mario tennis game had. Ultra Smash didn't. We don't any more rushed garbage. Ultra Smash truly defied Miyamoto's statement of "A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad".
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To be fair, I don't think having to systematically watch an animation each time and then having an overpowered shot or defensive move is the direction I want for the series, the rest of the game still looked to flollow the structure of the N64 game with more intriguing features and characters so it should have been awesome anyway, if I played it.
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I personally loved it, although you can skip it. I do realize that the GameCube era was Nintendo's most experimental era for Mario games. Some of them were great ideas that should've been kept, like say two people on one kart in Double Dash, and the Power Shots in Power Tennis.

Two of them weren't so well done, that is F.L.U.D.D in Super Mario Sunshine and cinematic action in a Mario game, though the realism law of that game applies to the Mario sports games and Mario Kart games and in some other games (with Peach at least, what I mean is by having her hair in a ponytail in realistic situations like how girls do in real life when playing a sport or something which requires that girls should have their hair tied back) which became the norm in other Mario games. The earlier Mario sports games didn't follow realism. Sunshine is where the realism began in the Mario series to sorta update it with the common trends that game changers of the late 90s and early 2000s did like MGS and Shenmue but to not to the extent like MGS and Shenmue.
 
In my honest opinion, I think Mario Power Tennis's pace is very sluggish and slow-paced, especially compared to Mario Tennis Open and Ultra Trash, hell, even out-paced by Mario Tennis 64, which also feels pretty sloppy today. The Nice! serves don't feel very fast at all, and the slice shots don't slice much. In addition, I feel like even executing purple smash shots feels really slow. It's around slice shot speed in Mario Tennis Open.

And doubles is a pain to play against harder CPU. They try lobbing over your head when they can, and they don't lob over the second player's head. It's simply not fun to play with opponents who want to lob you over and over and over.

I personally don't like Power Tennis's roster either. None of my top 5 favorites are playable, so I constantly rotate between characters, never really sticking to one. Luigi, Boo, Bowser Jr., Paratroopa, and Fly Guy, I rotate between all the time.
 
Baby Luigi said:
In my honest opinion, I think Mario Power Tennis's pace is very sluggish and slow-paced, especially compared to Mario Tennis Open and Ultra Trash, hell, even out-paced by Mario Tennis 64, which also feels pretty sloppy today. The Nice! serves don't feel very fast at all, and the slice shots don't slice much. In addition, I feel like even executing purple smash shots feels really slow. It's around slice shot speed in Mario Tennis Open.

And doubles is a pain to play against harder CPU. They try lobbing over your head when they can, and they don't lob over the second player's head. It's simply not fun to play with opponents who want to lob you over and over and over.

I personally don't like Power Tennis's roster either. None of my top 5 favorites are playable, so I constantly rotate between characters, never really sticking to one. Luigi, Boo, Bowser Jr., Paratroopa, and Fly Guy, I rotate between all the time.
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The only positives about Ultra Smash is just the graphics and that's about it really. The gameplay is okay.

The actual game itself feels inferior and what I mean is that there is no proper tournament mode, the character roster is the smallest out of all the other Mario Tennis games (I am not counting Mario's Tennis on the Virtual Boy) and possibly the other Mario Sports games, no extra content like Power Tennis, no nothing aside from just plain tennis. It's just plain, boring and bland. On top of that Nintendo didn't even bother fixing the game. The game had potential but was executed horrendously. It's unfinished and unpolished in this aspect. Nintendo didn't put that much of an effort. That's not how you make a game. You are supposed to take your time when making any game, not rush it out. The Offensive and Defensive Power Shots were the best part of Power Tennis. Sorry, but Ultra Smash is an unacceptable excuse of a game by Nintendo in this aspect, especially when Miyamoto himself said "A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad". It plays well, yes but in execution, its poor.

In the end, Ultra Smash got its ass handed by a game made in 2004 on a system from two generations prior (the GameCube) and even a game from 2000 on the N64. This is just shocking and unbelievable. I'd play Power Tennis any day of the week. It is really the weakest entry in the series. This is the cold hard truth.


Sure, you have your opinion and I have my opinion about other things. Let's just say that all right.

Anyways, enough talk about Ultra Smash.
 
I would really like to dispute your point about Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash having "okay" gameplay, because your post still heavily smells like "I didn't play the game so I'll just parrot what everyone else said about the game" type of comment.
 
My only complaint about Ultra Trash's gameplay is the simple lack of options. Power Tennis had auto, manual, and the default. Manual means you can lunge only if you press R+Swing so it'll prevent you from screwing over because your reaction time is only human. It'll probably screw up your Power Shots because once you enable Manual, it's not only Mario or Daisy that can fail in their swings now. My sister said she has seen Mario fail in his Offensive Power Shot, and since I play with default settings, that's a surprise it can even happen. Anyway, having that option is nice compared to the infuriating auto-lunges that grants your opponents an Ultra Smash when it shouldn't happen. More important, if you think you can avoid it by simply not swinging, well, your reaction time better compensate or else you'll get hit or you'll miss the ball.

Ultra Trash looks and plays like a polished game. Attention to detail is clear, the ball speed is fluid, good serves FEEL like good serves, topspins and backpins actually feel different (compared to Power Tennis), smashes have more power in them, lobbing isn't so painfully abused like in Power Tennis, and courts actually have nuanced differences in their ball speed and spin (while in Power Tennis, the differences are much more subtle) but its content is so utterly lacking, and that's its problem.
 
Baby Luigi said:
I would really like to dispute your point about Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash having "okay" gameplay, because your post still heavily smells like "I didn't play the game so I'll just parrot what everyone else said about the game" type of comment.
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Did you even get a word or two about what I was trying to say? What I said was just cold hard facts. Do you even know what Miyamoto meant by "A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad"?

Maria Renard said:
The actual game itself feels inferior and what I mean is that there is no proper tournament mode, the character roster is the smallest out of all the other Mario Tennis games (I am not counting Mario's Tennis on the Virtual Boy) and possibly the other Mario Sports games, no extra content like Power Tennis, no nothing aside from just plain tennis. It's just plain, boring and bland. On top of that Nintendo didn't even bother fixing the game. The game had potential but was executed horrendously. It's unfinished and unpolished in this aspect. Nintendo didn't put that much of an effort. That's not how you make a game. You are supposed to take your time when making any game, not rush it out. The Offensive and Defensive Power Shots were the best part of Power Tennis. Sorry, but Ultra Smash is an unacceptable excuse of a game by Nintendo in this aspect, especially when Miyamoto himself said "A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad". It plays well, yes but in execution, its poor.
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You also said "enough talk about Ultra Smash", and yet here we are racing to get the final word.

You think a hypothetical Switch port could possibly add more sports to this? Like bowling? Or tetherball?
 
My sister and I talked about fishing, but we somehow brought Next Level Games into it and it then became a game where you fish Cheep Cheeps and then wrestle them afterward.
 
Maria Renard said:
Did you even get a word or two about what I was trying to say? What I said was just cold hard facts. Do you even know what Miyamoto meant by "A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad"
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So, you don't bother defending yourself when I claimed that you didn't play the game, thus confirming my suspicions you haven't played it enough or at all and you're just repeating talking points that everyone else said about the game.

I can go into nice detail on why I think Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash has far better tennis gameplay than Mario Power Tennis, having played both titles enough, and despite all of Ultra Smash's serious shortcomings, on why it's not "plain, boring, and bland". Shots in Ultra Smash feel far more impactful and quicker than they do in Power Tennis, and services aces feel more satisfying to pull off than they do in Power Tennis. Slices, topspins, and smash shots all feel different from each other, where Power Tennis, differences and speed are barely negligible. Jump shots are incredibly fun to perform, especially when the courts make the balls jump really high, even though the Mushroom Court can get annoying. Mega Mushrooms are also fun to play with, and although they can't hold the entire game, they're decent enough to spice things up, and thus, are me and my twin's preferred way of battling. If they were a side mode, Mega Battle would have been pretty amazing. As my twin said, courts actually feel very distinct, whereas in Power Tennis, they all play very similar to each other.

Content is obviously where the game fails at and hence why it's regarded as worse than Power Tennis. However, if Power Tennis had Ultra Smash gameplay, it would have been far better than Power Tennis gameplay.

Ultra Smash was executed very well, on the contrary to your point. It just needed stuff to actually do with the very, very good gameplay.

Magikrazy said:
You think a hypothetical Switch port could possibly add more sports to this? Like bowling? Or tetherball?
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Maybe have Squeenix pitch in and give us Basketball, Hockey, Volleyball, and Dodgeball :^)

I really do believe a Switch port would be so freaking amazing though, even if they didn't add any sports.
 
Ohohhoh, the new sport can be eSports, turning the entire game into a cruel meta joke.
 
Heh, maybe there will be a new Mario eSports game where you play as a character playing as a character in Dota 2/League of Legends.
 
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