Avatar: The Last Airbender + Legend of Korra

If you could choose what kind of Bender you'd be. What element would you choose?

  • Waterbender

    Votes: 20 29.9%

  • Earthbender

    Votes: 13 19.4%

  • Firebender

    Votes: 22 32.8%

  • Airbender

    Votes: 10 14.9%

  • Non-Bender

    Votes: 2 3.0%
  • Total voters
    67
Wow. That was pretty epic. It got to a point where I thought Korra almost redeemed itself as a series.
and then we got an overdose of DEUS EX FUCKING MACHINA.

Seriously? Where do I start? Unulaq's ability to suddenly have powers that the Avatar never had? I guess that can be written off since Vaatu is so much more powerful than Raava right now, but then suddenly Korra has the ability to turn into a giant monster thingy just by connecting with her spiritual energy? I mean, how come no one else has done this? And how is Jinora so naturally spiritually charged? How was Korra's giant projection thingy able to completely obliterate all of darkness?

That brings me to my next point. I mentioned this before, but Light and Dark are portrayed really badly in this series. They're supposed to counteract each other - it's not supposed to be that Light is superior to Dark, and Dark is just a plague upon this world.

And we still haven't gotten a motive for Unulaq. I understand the merging of the two worlds - that's a noble motive, really - but why does he want to plunge the world into eternal darkness? And was it really necessary to start the Civil War for this? Likewise, Varrick didn't really need to do all of his crimes in order to help the south pole or get money or whatever it was he wanted. (Also, did we ever find out where he escaped to?)

I am interested to see how the open spirit portals affects the next season, though. I thought that was a good choice, and I'm happy they went with it.

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I'm also sad they got rid of the Dark Avatar so quickly. I thought that'd be a cool concept to keep around for more episodes.
 
Based Sora said:
you two are aware that you can watch the last two episodes on nick's website right
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Nabber said:
Wow. That was pretty epic. It got to a point where I thought Korra almost redeemed itself as a series.
and then we got an overdose of DEUS EX FUCKING MACHINA.

Seriously? Where do I start? Unulaq's ability to suddenly have powers that the Avatar never had? I guess that can be written off since Vaatu is so much more powerful than Raava right now, but then suddenly Korra has the ability to turn into a giant monster thingy just by connecting with her spiritual energy? I mean, how come no one else has done this? And how is Jinora so naturally spiritually charged? How was Korra's giant projection thingy able to completely obliterate all of darkness?

That brings me to my next point. I mentioned this before, but Light and Dark are portrayed really badly in this series. They're supposed to counteract each other - it's not supposed to be that Light is superior to Dark, and Dark is just a plague upon this world.

And we still haven't gotten a motive for Unulaq. I understand the merging of the two worlds - that's a noble motive, really - but why does he want to plunge the world into eternal darkness? And was it really necessary to start the Civil War for this? Likewise, Varrick didn't really need to do all of his crimes in order to help the south pole or get money or whatever it was he wanted. (Also, did we ever find out where he escaped to?)

I am interested to see how the open spirit portals affects the next season, though. I thought that was a good choice, and I'm happy they went with it.
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No one else did what Korra did at the Tree of Time because it never had to be done before (though it's not too much different from Aang's experience with the Avatar State). As for Jinora, you have to remember she is the daughter of the son of the previous Avatar, who as we know had a connection to Raava, so it stands to reason someone in that family would inherit some kind of spiritual connection. I don't think Vaatu is completely obliterated. Light cannot destroy darkness any more than darkness can destroy light, as Raava put it, and I don't think that's changed. My assumption is that Vaatu is imprisoned somewhere in the Spirit World. Dark wasn't a plague upon the world until Wan interfered with the struggle between Raava and Vaatu. After that point, they were no longer equals, and as a result, there could not be a balance between them. What is "supposed" to be isn't. It's not a flaw of the show; it's a flaw of human misunderstanding. We've had a motive for Unalaq. His anger at the Southern Water Tribe's celebration of the Spirit Festival allowed him to be influenced by Vaatu, and what started as a means of bringing balance to the world evolved into a desire to be a Dark Avatar. The war and everything that followed was a consequence of that (i.e. if the Southern Water Tribe can't get their spiritual shit together, maybe I can do a better job in charge of both). Varrick did what he did in an attempt to recruit Republic City to the cause. He did have to do what he did because simply asking for help wasn't working (I guess you weren't paying attention when President Raiko refused Korra twice). Republic City has more manpower and resources than the Southern Water Tribe, after all. And no, we don't know where Varrick went, but it's not important.
 
Mario4Ever said:
Nabber said:
Wow. That was pretty epic. It got to a point where I thought Korra almost redeemed itself as a series.
and then we got an overdose of DEUS EX FUCKING MACHINA.

Seriously? Where do I start? Unulaq's ability to suddenly have powers that the Avatar never had? I guess that can be written off since Vaatu is so much more powerful than Raava right now, but then suddenly Korra has the ability to turn into a giant monster thingy just by connecting with her spiritual energy? I mean, how come no one else has done this? And how is Jinora so naturally spiritually charged? How was Korra's giant projection thingy able to completely obliterate all of darkness?

That brings me to my next point. I mentioned this before, but Light and Dark are portrayed really badly in this series. They're supposed to counteract each other - it's not supposed to be that Light is superior to Dark, and Dark is just a plague upon this world.

And we still haven't gotten a motive for Unulaq. I understand the merging of the two worlds - that's a noble motive, really - but why does he want to plunge the world into eternal darkness? And was it really necessary to start the Civil War for this? Likewise, Varrick didn't really need to do all of his crimes in order to help the south pole or get money or whatever it was he wanted. (Also, did we ever find out where he escaped to?)

I am interested to see how the open spirit portals affects the next season, though. I thought that was a good choice, and I'm happy they went with it.
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No one else did what Korra did at the Tree of Time because it never had to be done before (though it's not too much different from Aang's experience with the Avatar State). As for Jinora, you have to remember she is the daughter of the son of the previous Avatar, who as we know had a connection to Raava, so it stands to reason someone in that family would inherit some kind of spiritual connection. I don't think Vaatu is completely obliterated. Light cannot destroy darkness any more than darkness can destroy light, as Raava put it, and I don't think that's changed. My assumption is that Vaatu is imprisoned somewhere in the Spirit World. Dark wasn't a plague upon the world until Wan interfered with the struggle between Raava and Vaatu. After that point, they were no longer equals, and as a result, there could not be a balance between them. What is "supposed" to be isn't. It's not a flaw of the show; it's a flaw of human misunderstanding. We've had a motive for Unalaq. His anger at the Southern Water Tribe's celebration of the Spirit Festival allowed him to be influenced by Vaatu, and what started as a means of bringing balance to the world evolved into a desire to be a Dark Avatar. The war and everything that followed was a consequence of that (i.e. if the Southern Water Tribe can't get their spiritual shit together, maybe I can do a better job in charge of both). Varrick did what he did in an attempt to recruit Republic City to the cause. He did have to do what he did because simply asking for help wasn't working (I guess you weren't paying attention when President Raiko refused Korra twice). Republic City has more manpower and resources than the Southern Water Tribe, after all. And no, we don't know where Varrick went, but it's not important.
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raiko is an ass, he really is

i can see where you're coming from. i didn't really understand watching it that the Tree of Time had an effect on Korra's cosmic connection, though i still don't really like it. that said, i thought this was a better finale than season 1
 
Episode 11 and 12

Wow, Varrick is really working as a villain now.

Aww, yeah, Bolin doing something useful. The first time this season, I think.

Why didn't Unalaq kill Tonraq when he had the chance? Stupid cliched villains. Unalaq is so boring as a villain now.

Hey, look, you guys were right with the whole "dark-Avatar" thing. Unalaq can't even pretend he isn't evil anymore.

Hell yeah, it's up for Bumi to save the day! Non-benders, unite! Now he needs to meet with Asami and...oh, wait, it's over.

Korra looks really pretty with her hair out. Is it supposed to parallel Avatar Wan as well?

Ooh, it's an aurora! OF DEATH!

Tune in next episode for FINAL BOSS time!

No proper review because screw it, I'll do it later.
 
Season finale!

To get this out of the way, yes, there were quite a few Deus Ex Machinas in this finale, but then again, isn't that what Avatar always does? The Lion Turtle in TLA, as well as Korra's sudden unlocking of airbending in season 1 and her past lives restoring the rest.

But, yeah, the season finale was MUCH better than season 1. So many fight scenes. So epic. Not to mention, the stakes were pretty dang high. I do agree it seems strange that light won. After all, Korra wasn't even fused with Raava at the time. How did she win the battle? Deus Ex Jinora, I guess. And if Light/Dark was truly equal, they wouldn't need to keep sealing up Vaatu.

Overall, I think Season 1 had a stronger beginning and middle, whereas Season 2 had a stronger end. You could tell the writers were spending a LOT of time on the finale, so much so that they almost forgot what to put in the middle. Like the Varrick subplot, which, while it was interesting, it didn't actually contribute to the finale. Varrick didn't help fight Unalaq or anything. Not to mention, you could tell they were struggling to think of ways to fit all the characters in. I mean, you could take Bolin and Asami out of the plot together, and I don't think anything would change.

It was an OK season. Overall about the same quality as season 1, but I liked the season 1 conflicts a lot more. Mostly because they seemed more...realistic? Less fantasy in it, which made it more relatable. Unalaq was a boring villain, but so was Amon, really. I've already explained some of my problems with this season, but I can tell you, I can't do better.
 
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I...I don't know how to feel...

I just watched the last 4 episodes in a row (I was behind, but I think doing that really help make it feel more...connected than having to wait a week). Like, damn, that is one of the most intensive season endings ever. I thought that this was basically the end of the entire series for a moment until I remembered that they are planning to make 2 new seasons.

Well, one thing I will say is that the creators of Avatar will never cease to amaze me how much more they can do with Korra. Season 1 felt like "yep, all done now." and now this season was like "Ultimate light vs. darkness battle." This literally was the best season ending (including the series ending for TLA) ever to happen to Avatar. At least, in my opinion.

However, I feel that the Korra arc is...done. Like, I feel that this would be the perfect opportunity to go the next Avatar and show them that. I know, I know; it's just that I feel that Korra has climax-ed, and that there really is no possible way she can ever get to "that" moment again. And I feel like it would be interesting to see how the next avatar deals with Korra's actions. I'm still a bit hazy with her opinion to not shot the portals again, knowing that in 10,000 years they will have to fight Vaatu again, unless the portals are closed and he is trapped in the tree of time.

Though, with that, it really does leave a lot of resolution neede. Like, what did Ginora do, and how did she know? What will spirits be like with humans after their separation from the human world for 10,000 years? Will Korra regain her connection with her past avatars?

That is something that will really bother me. I am dearly hoping that Korra manages to reconnect to her past avatars. I feel like that's what the series is all about, is the fact that there is an Avatar, human and spirit (Raava) combined, being able to connect with her past to help bring balance to the present and future. Ugh, the series ending was so great though, but now it makes me want to know what is going to come next!
 
Whoop, I might actually complete my goal and complete TLA today, I watched like 10 episode yesterday and I have 8 left now. I am planning on watching the final 4 straight after each other

On a slightly unrelated note
If someone can find me a gif of Zuko ripping his shirt off from the beach episode it will be greatly appreciated, I have a feeling I will need that gif in the future....
 
Deku Link said:
(I was behind, but I think doing that really help make it feel more...connected than having to wait a week).
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i dont think you were behind, unless i misunderstood what you were saying. the last four episodes were all released this friday

also, i dont think vaatu is trapped in the tree of time. my impression was that the battle with korra killed him, which i guess means he's living inside her now?
 
Klavier Gavin said:
If someone can find me a gif of Zuko ripping his shirt off from the beach episode it will be greatly appreciated, I have a feeling I will need that gif in the future....
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I'm not sure if this is what you are looking for as i don't know the specific episode but here

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Kimberly Hart said:
Klavier Gavin said:
If someone can find me a gif of Zuko ripping his shirt off from the beach episode it will be greatly appreciated, I have a feeling I will need that gif in the future....
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I'm not sure if this is what you are looking for as i don't know the specific episode but here

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Yes, that is perfect
 
Sounds boring. You can REALLY tell they don't know what they're going to do for the next two seasons, they're just making stuff up as they go along now.

See, Nickelodeon, this is what happen when you give them 3 seasons when they weren't expecting it. You get crappy plot ideas. I didn't even like the spirits stuff, anyway, and we're going to get more of it. :mad:
 
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