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Except Escavalier cowers by the sight of a strong Fire-type attack, and it is sluggishly slow. But when Trick Room and Gravity are active, that's when you should start fearing Escavalier's brute force.
 
MnSG said:
Except Escavalier cowers by the sight of a strong Fire-type attack, and it is sluggishly slow. But when Trick Room and Gravity are active, that's when you should start fearing Escavalier's brute force.
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Even with the Fire weakness and the speed problems, he's still semi-useful as a combo tank/brute force/Pursuit user.
 
Yeah, but it's good that all types have a 120 power/drawback move.

Also, can someone nerf dragon-types? Or at least not give them ANOTHER super-powerful attack like Draco Meteor.
 
Purple Yoshi said:
Yeah, but it's good that all types have a 120 power/drawback move.

Also, can someone nerf dragon-types? Or at least not give them ANOTHER super-powerful attack like Draco Meteor.
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I insist: make Ice resistant to Dragon.
 
Anser said:
Purple Yoshi said:
Yeah, but it's good that all types have a 120 power/drawback move.

Also, can someone nerf dragon-types? Or at least not give them ANOTHER super-powerful attack like Draco Meteor.
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I insist: make Ice resistant to Dragon.
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Why? I don't see the reasoning behind this.
 
probably because ice is only resistant to one type(itself) and has quite the plethora of weaknesses.
 
Ice has pretty damn good coverage, though
 
Also, just because type 1 is weak against type 2 doesn't necessarily mean that type 2 has to be resistant to type 1. For example, the Ground-type takes neutral damage from Fire-type attacks, even though Fire-types have a weakness to Ground-type attacks.
 
To be honest, Ice-types (especially true before Gen V) had basically no pure ice-type pokemon, and were all paired up with another typing.

So most ice types found have an additional typing to aid their weaknesses and defenses, just like with flying types.

However, though ice types may have very few resistances, at least it has a really good offense. I mean, it is super effective against dragon and ground, two of the most difficult typings to go against. And the types that they usually are weak to - like rock and steel - have little speed while ice types usually have a chance to work in a powerful move to. I mean, steel types don't really even have a good offense, so no worries there. Plus, fighting and rock don't resist ice type, which makes it really good to work with.

Plus, ice type moves generally are very strong and powerful. Just look at Ice beam! What makes many ice type moves really good is the fact that they have the potential effect of freezing the pokemon, which is like a fully-paralyzed version of paralysis. It is really great when you freeze your opponent and you have plenty of time to decide the next few turns without worrying about the opponent.

Sometimes weaknesses need to be overlooked to see the strength of a typing.
 
The problem with freezing the opponent is that:
  • Only Ice-Type offensive attacks can freeze the opponent
  • The amount of time frozen can be extremely short(once was 0 turns...)

I, once in a game, never used a ice-healing thingy<---What was the name???
 
freezing hardly ever occurs ever, even with many ice moves causing freeze.

Ice types even with additional typings still have many issues, especially ice types that try to be defensive, such as Articuno or Glaceon.
 
At the worst, Ice-type moves only have a 20% chance to cause a target to be frozen, and that's with Serene Grace being involved. Without Serene Grace, that chance is a mere 10%.

Of course, Tri Attack has a chance to freeze targets too, but there aren't any Pokemon who get Tri Attack and the Serence Grace ability at the same time, keeping that secondary effect chance at a mere 20%.

Edit: I have a new ability idea in mind...

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Quick Armor
Flavor Text: Reduces damage from increased priority attacks.

Battle Effect: When a Pokemon with Quick Armor is hit by an attack that has a priority level of +1 or higher, the damage from the attack is reduced by 50%. Aqua Jet, Bide, Bullet Punch, ExtremeSpeed, Fake Out, Feint, Ice Shard, Mach Punch, Quick Attack, Shadow Sneak, Sucker Punch, and Vacuum Wave are affected by this ability. Pursuit is also affected, but ONLY when the Pokemon with Quick Armor is switching out. Attacks with a priority level of 0 or lower are not affected by Quick Armor.

Outside Effect: The ability has no effect outside of battles.
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MnSG said:
Of course, Tri Attack has a chance to freeze targets too, but there aren't any Pokemon who get Tri Attack and the Serence Grace ability at the same time, keeping that secondary effect chance at a mere 20%.
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http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Togepi
There's a Shadow Togepi in Pokémon XD that when purified has Tri Attack. Togepi has Serene Grace as one of its abilities(Togetic and Togekiss have it too).
 
Then again, the ability to freeze using Tri-Attack is offset by the other two status ailments it can cause, paralysis and burn
 
Baby Luigi said:
Then again, the ability to freeze using Tri-Attack is offset by the other two status ailments it can cause, paralysis and burn
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Well pretty much every Pokémon would prefer those two statuses over freezing. Hell, even being asleep is sometimes better than being frozen. You have to consider freezing as the fact that the Pokémon can't move at all. Sure, it could only dure the turn it's inflicted, but that's not the point.
 
LN1 said:
Baby Luigi said:
Then again, the ability to freeze using Tri-Attack is offset by the other two status ailments it can cause, paralysis and burn
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Well pretty much every Pokémon would prefer those two statuses over freezing. Hell, even being asleep is sometimes better than being frozen. You have to consider freezing as the fact that the Pokémon can't move at all. Sure, it could only dure the turn it's inflicted, but that's not the point.
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Except Pokemon with Guts. And I'm pretty sure Freeze is a much stronger condition than sleep, which is why there aren't any Freeze-inducing support moves at all.
 
Baby Luigi said:
LN1 said:
Baby Luigi said:
Then again, the ability to freeze using Tri-Attack is offset by the other two status ailments it can cause, paralysis and burn
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Well pretty much every Pokémon would prefer those two statuses over freezing. Hell, even being asleep is sometimes better than being frozen. You have to consider freezing as the fact that the Pokémon can't move at all. Sure, it could only dure the turn it's inflicted, but that's not the point.
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Except Pokemon with Guts. And I'm pretty sure Freeze is a much stronger condition than sleep, which is why there aren't any Freeze-inducing support moves at all.
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Actually Pokémon with Guts would prefer paralysis and burn even more than your average Pokémon without Guts. Or at least over freeze(the speed lowering/chance to not move at all is better than a guarantee to not move at all.)
 
I misread your post. I'm sorry, my reading comprehension is a bit off today due to my fatigue.
 
Being paralyzed is much worse than getting burned or poisoned for certain Pokemon though, since not only is your Pokemon's speed crippled, but it may not be able to move at all. Even for Pokemon with the Quick Feet ability, that ability may negate the speed reduction effects of paralysis, but it doesn't stop the fully paralyzed risk.
 
That is exactly why I use Paralyse when I'm capturing a rare pokemon: Easier to capture.
Speed reduced, and sometimes stops attacking.
Cannot heal of it over time.
 
Although sleeping and freezing give a better chance to capture than paralysis, poison or burn.
 
Xanthium said:
That is exactly why I use Paralyse when I'm capturing a rare pokemon: Easier to capture.
Speed reduced, and sometimes stops attacking.
Cannot heal of it over time.
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And it lasts forever, unlike sleep.
 
Anser said:
Xanthium said:
Purple Yoshi, that was my 3rd point. You cannot naturally heal from paralysis.
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Shed Skin and Natural Cure, though...
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Don't think that counts as "naturally"
 
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