Super Smash Bros. for Wii U & 3DS Discussion

[Magikrazy]

If Ridley was in, he'd definitely be one of, if not the worst character.

 

[Ray Trace]

I think balance is a reason Ridley is not a playable character. With that hitbox of his, he'd either be OP or crap, depending if his hitboxes are disjointed or not.

And if you scale him down any further than that, he'd look like a pipsqueak compared to his true counterpart.

 

[GalacticPetey]

Giant playable characters are not impossible.

 

[NSY]

He looks really overpowered though.

 

[GalacticPetey]

She's actually not OP.

 

[Crypt Raider]

Giant playable characters are not impossible.

I mean, Godzillas a different type of game. From what I can tell from that gameplay footage, Smash already has a much huger emphasis on movement and stage control. I don't think it'd be necessarily broken, but it would be very... awkward? Being giant on a stage like Battlefield or Lylat doesn't feel right, since you eat half the stage and can still do things like double jump and roll.

 

[Tyrell Badd]

Ridley will only be playable on Great Cave Offensive, Palutena's Temple, Temple, New Pork City when it gets released as dlc, and Pac-Land.

Alternatively, Little Birdie will enter the battle instead and its final smash will be actually transforming into Ridley but it will be nothing but a clone of Charizard's Final Smash.

 

[GalacticPetey]

http://www.sourcegaming.info/2015/07/09/i-answer-some-questions-sakurai-famitsu-column-vol-461-464/

Sakurai clears some stuff up about Ice Climbers, clones, and Smash Run. Some very interesting points.

Sorry Ice Climber fans...

 

[GBA]

New Pork City when it gets released as dlc,

why hasn't this happened yet

a release to coincide with the lucas dlc and the addition of stage dlc would've made perfect sense, especially considering how 8-player smash is a thing (plus i want the missing 'humouresque of a little dog track' back). now that the opportunity is gone i doubt it'll ever happen D:

the stage's music was absorbed by onett so the chances of it being added in the first place were low anyway but still D: D: D:

 

[Lumastar]

I'd rather have Fourside back.

 

[Nysic]

i still don't understand why sakurai doesn't just make the ice climbers wii u-exclusive dlc
it would make the fans happier than just not having them at all

 

[GalacticPetey]

Because he wants the rosters to be the same and they probably wouldn't work in eight player Smash anyway.

 

[LeftyGreenMario]

Because Ice Climbers probably wouldn't work even in Wii U? Hello, 8-player Smash, goodbye 60 FPS, as hilarious as that might be.

 

[GalacticPetey]

From the guy who runs that SourceGaming website:

100% agree with Wii U cant handling 16 Ice Climbers. Here's why:

Look at the alterations done to stages for 8 player Smash.
-Ridley gets cut
-Stage transformations get cut
-Mirror animations get cut
-Breakable walls get cut
-Kart A.I. get cut
-General animations get cut
I sincerely doubt that the WIi U could handle 16 players, it barely gets 8 done!

I know Sakurai said they were working on the Wii U version. But we don't know when in development they were cut.

 

[Ray Trace]

http://www.sourcegaming.info/2015/07/09/i-answer-some-questions-sakurai-famitsu-column-vol-461-464/

Sakurai clears some stuff up about Ice Climbers, clones, and Smash Run. Some very interesting points.

Sorry Ice Climber fans...

That's fine I already got over the lack of Ice Climbers at this point. It's sad that they actually worked though...

 

[freakworld]

if melee could handle 8 players (if fps dont matter), the wii u can do 16

 

[Ray Trace]

if melee could handle 8 players (if fps dont matter), the wii u can do 16

Pretty sure when Sakurai meant by "working" he meant 60 fps locked with 8 players. I really think the frame-rate dipped with the Ice Climbers.

Frame-rate is actually paramount in fighting games, especially in Smash. Fountain of Dreams in Melee was actually banned because of frame-rate dippings.

 

[YoshiGo99]

I'd say make Ice Climbers a little different, have it so only one of them is played into battle. 4 colors for Popo and 4 for Nana, you can choose between either one and the other one will only show up for certain attacks, maybe Final Smash, maybe Up-Special.

That is what I am thinking, but it may seem really dumb.

 

[GalacticPetey]

I'd say make Ice Climbers a little different, have it so only one of them is played into battle. 4 colors for Popo and 4 for Nana, you can choose between either one and the other one will only show up for certain attacks, maybe Final Smash, maybe Up-Special.

That is what I am thinking, but it may seem really dumb.

That defeats the entire gimmick and point of the character, which is to be two characters acting together.

 

[Magikrazy]

At least we still have Pikmin & Olimar, Rosalina & Luma, and Duck Hunt.

 

[YoshiGo99]

I'd say make Ice Climbers a little different, have it so only one of them is played into battle. 4 colors for Popo and 4 for Nana, you can choose between either one and the other one will only show up for certain attacks, maybe Final Smash, maybe Up-Special.

That is what I am thinking, but it may seem really dumb.

That defeats the entire gimmick and point of the character, which is to be two characters acting together.

Well then they really wouldn't have a chance at all, other than locking them from being used in 8-Player Smash.

 

[Ray Trace]

At least we still have Pikmin & Olimar, Rosalina & Luma, and Duck Hunt.

I'm glad they got Pikmin & Olimar working. Barely.

Also, I hardly count Duck Hunt as two characters, technical wise.

 

[Magikrazy]

Really it's three.

The dog, the duck, the shooter.

 

[Cirdec]

There are five shooters, so it's seven.

 

[Ray Trace]

Well whatever. It's still technically only one character. Pikmin and Luma have AI, the other characters in Duck Hunt are simply part of his moveset.