Super Smash Bros. for Wii U & 3DS Discussion
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Roserade said:
Basically he's jealous of the Inklings getting this much attention from both fans and Nintendo themselves, while his favorite character (Daisy) is ignored.
Northern Verve said:
Part of me wants to get 8 Deluxe so that I can slam them to the ground in Battle Mode.
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Daisy not being in Smash is a ridiculous reason not to get it. At least she has a couple of trophies.
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ArthurEngine said:
She has more trophies than any other NPC in Smash 4.
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This so much. I might be disappointed when a character I like doesn't appear, but if the game is fun I will still get it. And Smash Bros. is fun.ArthurEngine said:
ArthurEngine said:
It's not a ridiculous reason, when Smash is literally sold on it's characters. If your favourite character got left out of a character based game, wouldn't you feel disappointed? I even heard people aren't going to buy Mario Kart 8 Deluxe because of a lack of Diddy Kong or Birdo etc. Thanks to the Wii U flopping, Nintendo as a company has changed for the worse.
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Hell yeah I was disappointed when Shovel Knight didn't get in. That doesn't mean I boycotted the series.memoryman3 said:
Additionally...
Nintendo didn't have to give us Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and given it features like additional characters and battle mode. But they did.
They didn't have to give us Super Mario Odyssey. They could've just given us 3D World 2 and watch the money pour in. But they didn't.
And even in the days of the Wii U, they didn't have to give us the Smash Ballot. They could've just chosen the DLC on their own. But they didn't.
Nintendo still isn't a perfect company, but I'd like to think they're improving by a lot.
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memoryman3 said:
I would be disappointed if a character I like gets left out of a game I'm hoping for them to be in, but I might still be eager to purchase the game anyway due to how fun the game may be regardless of who might appear.
I mean I was disappointed when I found out that Diddy and Birdo didn't make it to Mario Kart Eight or Mario Tennis Ultra Smash, but I still managed to get them.
But I can see your point. The only characters in the Mario universe Nintendo really cares about are Mario, Peach, Toad and Bowser.
Roserade said:
I would have preferred a 3D World 2....
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ArthurEngine said:
And Rosalina
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Grunty Industries said:
Rosalina, perhaps, but they have more concern for Mario, Peach, Toad and Bowser.
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Meanwhile I'm still learning about modding Smash 4. And I'm super content with it.
Heh
(note this is a WIP and is not the final product)
Yes it IS a ridiculous reason not to get it.
I'm a Baby Luigi fan, a hugest fan of him, I do everything related to him, mod him in every game I can, own a lot of merchandise of him, always draw him, hug the Baby Luigi plushies, and 80% of Mario games I've enjoyed do not contain Baby Luigi in it. That include Mario Sports and Mario Party. All of them.
Heh
(note this is a WIP and is not the final product)
memoryman3 said:
Yes it IS a ridiculous reason not to get it.
I'm a Baby Luigi fan, a hugest fan of him, I do everything related to him, mod him in every game I can, own a lot of merchandise of him, always draw him, hug the Baby Luigi plushies, and 80% of Mario games I've enjoyed do not contain Baby Luigi in it. That include Mario Sports and Mario Party. All of them.
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ArthurEngine said:
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That's part of his charm.
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The other day, I took some time to alter Lucario's aura mechanics. Below is a table that compares my changes to the original mechanics, and Brawl's mechanics.
Basically, my new mechanics have Lucario's damage multiplier be set to 0.7x while at 0% damage. However, some nerfs do exist in that the new mechanics cause Lucario to be less powerful than with the original mechanics at 47% through 96% damage; Lucario's attacks won't deal their normal damage until its current damage is set to 75%. But once its current damage hits 97%, the damage multiplier starts to leave the old mechanics in the dust. The damage cap also gets increased to 200%, which raises Lucario's damage multiplier to 1.9x.
Of course, Lucario's damage multiplier can actually go up to 2x with my edits, but that can only be achieved if Lucario is trailing by a good amount, and has taken enough damage; outside of those requirements, you can't normally go higher than 1.9x. Also, the damage multiplier never goes below 0.7x, even when Lucario is leading a match.
As for Mega Lucario, its attacks would always deal 2x damage, referencing how its ability, Adaptability, raises the STAB multiplier for its Fighting-type and Steel-type attacks to 2x.
Basically, my new mechanics have Lucario's damage multiplier be set to 0.7x while at 0% damage. However, some nerfs do exist in that the new mechanics cause Lucario to be less powerful than with the original mechanics at 47% through 96% damage; Lucario's attacks won't deal their normal damage until its current damage is set to 75%. But once its current damage hits 97%, the damage multiplier starts to leave the old mechanics in the dust. The damage cap also gets increased to 200%, which raises Lucario's damage multiplier to 1.9x.
Of course, Lucario's damage multiplier can actually go up to 2x with my edits, but that can only be achieved if Lucario is trailing by a good amount, and has taken enough damage; outside of those requirements, you can't normally go higher than 1.9x. Also, the damage multiplier never goes below 0.7x, even when Lucario is leading a match.
As for Mega Lucario, its attacks would always deal 2x damage, referencing how its ability, Adaptability, raises the STAB multiplier for its Fighting-type and Steel-type attacks to 2x.
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Any reasons you did this? Does this also include rage?
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Grunty Industries said:
This doesn't exactly take into account the rage mechanic, since you hardly ever experience such stuff against CPU players.
As for why I did the mechanic changes, I guess part of it has to do with me not being content with Lucario's damage multiplier going below 0.7x at any time. Also, keep in mind that the damage multipliers in my edits are actually weaker at 47% through 96% damage. As such, Lucario can't make KOs as early while at that damage range.
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Explain? Just curious.MnSG said:
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LeftyGreenMario said:
Whenever I give my fighter a handicap disadvantage, I hardly see the rage mechanic kick in against the CPU. I get that rage can potentially lead to below 50% damage (or even lower) KOs, but whenever I have Lucario's damage go over 100%, rage never does kick in against the CPU, and it still finds itself having to build up an opponent's damage to near 100%.
Even when I set the damage ratio to 0.5x, and Lucario's damage to 200%, opponents tend to not get KO'd until they're past 100% damage, and that's without rage as well, since with a 1.9x damage multiplier, just the increased damage alone is enough to make the KOs below 200%.
But frankly, I rarely ever see the rage mechanic on my end, since the only times that I see rage are by watching videos online.
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Play on Temple while you're at it. I frequently get to 175%+ there in Melee and Brawl.