Characters confirmed to return in SSB4

Colonel Harland Sanders said:
Anser said:
Anyone who thinks Yoshi is going anywhere is clearly delusional.
Or in BLOF's case, hopeful.

Nah, I don't think so. Baby Luigi is realistic. She KNOWS Yoshi's coming back, as much as she hates him.
 
Colonel Harland Sanders said:
Xerneas said:
I'm just honestly surprised that Yoshi has not been confirmed yet for Smash Bros.

Seems like such a surprise for a main character from the original to not be confirmed yet.

Either they are just trollin' us, they have a big surprise with Yoshi, or - hopefully not - he will not be in Super Smash Bros. 4.
This is what I'm thinking. He has two games coming out, so maybe he'll be changed based on one of those games. I'm hoping for Yoshi and Baby Mario.

Baby Mario as a playable character?

I would start waiting in front of Gamestop until the game came out.

And Baby Luigi would probably be pissed because not only would Yoshi exist in that game, but Baby Mario without Baby Luigi would just pissed her off.
 
Anser said:
Colonel Harland Sanders said:
Anser said:
Anyone who thinks Yoshi is going anywhere is clearly delusional.
Or in BLOF's case, hopeful.

Nah, I don't think so. Baby Luigi is realistic. She KNOWS Yoshi's coming back, as much as she hates him.

That's why I said, I'd like to win the lottery too

Xerneas said:
Colonel Harland Sanders said:
Xerneas said:
I'm just honestly surprised that Yoshi has not been confirmed yet for Smash Bros.

Seems like such a surprise for a main character from the original to not be confirmed yet.

Either they are just trollin' us, they have a big surprise with Yoshi, or - hopefully not - he will not be in Super Smash Bros. 4.
This is what I'm thinking. He has two games coming out, so maybe he'll be changed based on one of those games. I'm hoping for Yoshi and Baby Mario.

Baby Mario as a playable character?

I would start waiting in front of Gamestop until the game came out.

And Baby Luigi would probably be pissed because not only would Yoshi exist in that game, but Baby Mario without Baby Luigi would just pissed her off.

Oh, Nintendo, if you'll ever do that, I'll send a pretty gift with many ribbons and flowers and a tasty cake :]
 
personally i doubt they'll make any big changes to yoshi. his moveset might get changed a bit but i doubt he'd get changed to yoshi and baby mario or anything like that.
 
Anser said:
Nah, I don't think so. Baby Luigi is realistic. She KNOWS Yoshi's coming back, as much as she hates him.
Even though Yoshi isn't in my Mario character list, he has a very big chance since Nintendo make new games for him.

Colonel Harland Sanders said:
This is what I'm thinking. He has two games coming out, so maybe he'll be changed based on one of those games.
Well, there are already several major Mario games for 3DS/WiiU so far, does it mean all main characters can be in?

For babies, there are many restrictions for them so they're not ideal choices.
 
Big chance is an understatement. Yoshi is part of the Original 12. No he's even more then that, he's part of the Original 8 starters from SSB64. Yoshi WILL be in this game, it's only odd that he's the only one of those 8 that haven't been shown already.

It actually took a year after Brawl's E3 Trailer for them to put Yoshi up anyway. So it's not like this is the only time they've delayed on showing off Yoshi. It's obvious they're just waiting to have him coincide for when either Yarn Yoshi or the Yoshi's Island coming up for the 3DS arrives.
 
Northern Verve said:
Yoshi is part of the Original 12. No he's even more then that, he's part of the Original 8 starters.
It's not a major factor to determine which characters should be in. If Yoshi didn't even start his own games, I'd say that other Mario members should be included instead this time.
 
Dorayaki said:
Northern Verve said:
Yoshi is part of the Original 12. No he's even more then that, he's part of the Original 8 starters.
It's not a major factor to determine which characters should be in, like many other games or Mario spinoffs. If Yoshi didn't even start his own games, I'd say that other Mario members should be included instead this time.

When SSB64 existed Yoshi already had been in Super Mario World, Yoshi's Island, and Yoshi's Story. And his repeated appearences in other Mario games also cement him in. New games for a character also don't really apply to all Smash characters. Is Ness getting a new game? Is there an Ice Climbers sequel? Do ROB and Mr. Game and Watch (Well technically there may have been Game & Wario but eh) have something for them soon?

I know we're talking about a character that usually appears somewhere in a Mario game. Even if just as a cameo (Ex: The Yoshi head planet in Super Mario Galaxy) so it's kinda different in comparison to retro and unexpected characters with no new games that will make a return in the next SSB anyway. The only thing recent games does is give us clues on who's going to be revealed next. As we did get Olimar (Pikmin 3), Luigi (M&L: Dream Team), Peach (Okay she didn't have a game release reveal, but it was the anniversary of the first SMB game I suppose), Toon Link (Wind Waker HD), and Sonic (Sonic Lost World). And sometimes when we expect one it didn't come after all as we got no Pokemon reveal for Pokemon X&Y's release.

Also Bowser never had his own game before Melee. If "starting in their own games" determined everything including the Mario representation, then Bowser would not have made it because the only real game you can technically count as a Bowser game is Bowser's Inside Story. I could include Peach too for not having her own game until Super Princess Peach. But we also have Super Mario Bros. 2 in her favor.

Being in a previous Smash game (ESPECIALLY if they were in more then one) is a factor that makes alot of characters more likely then most "shoe-in" newcomers. It wouldn't matter if Yoshi had new games coming up or not. The fact Yoshi appeared in 64, Melee, and Brawl all gives him high priority. Frequent Smash Appearances are a more major factor then games at this point. Every character that was a newcomer in Brawl that has not been revealed yet is in more danger then any of the 64 or Melee veterans that returned to Brawl. Yet most of them are pretty much expected to return. But my point is that appearing in at least two Smash games should give you a permanent spot for the rest of the franchise.
 
yoshi has been around since the beginning and is one of the most important or popular nintendo characters there is. he's returning, there's absolutely no chance that he won't.
 
Northern Verve said:
Dorayaki said:
It's not a major factor to determine which characters should be in, like many other games or Mario spinoffs. If Yoshi didn't even start his own games, I'd say that other Mario members should be included instead this time.
Being in a previous Smash game (ESPECIALLY if they were in more then one) is a factor that makes alot of characters more likely then most "shoe-in" newcomers. It wouldn't matter if Yoshi had new games coming up or not. The fact Yoshi appeared in 64, Melee, and Brawl all gives him high priority.
Briefly, both the position in the series and owning subseries are two requirments to enter SMB for most characters from ongoing series (not counting classic representives that don't get new sequels). Obviously the secondary protagonists and bosses have nothing to do with the "subseries requirement", so stop beating about the bush .

As I said in the last reply, Yoshi "has a very big chance" to appear in this titles so I'm not arguing that Yoshi shouldn't appear. However, I disagree with that certain characters must be included just because they've been in previous crossover titles, not judging by the position in their original series/subseries, and that is contrary to what a crossover game should be. The only exception can only be that there is an original character exclusive to SSB games.

In other examples, Jigglypuff is also a character that doesn't appear in recent TV shows or official ads. If Nintendo decide to give a new G6 pokemon, it's difficult to complain even though I really like Jigglypuff.
 
The thing about Jigglypuff, if there was a Pokemon to get cut out, I would say Jigglypuff. There is something about Jigglypuff's lack of a role in the Subspace Emissary that doesn't seem to good for its future.
 
But Jigglypuff's a member of the original 12, would they remove a Generation 1 Pokemon to add a Generation 6? No, I predict Jigglypuff will be in, and it isn't about it's role in the Subspace Emissary that makes it seem too bland for the future.
 
DragonFreak said:
The thing about Jigglypuff, if there was a Pokemon to get cut out, I would say Jigglypuff. There is something about Jigglypuff's lack of a role in the Subspace Emissary that doesn't seem to good for its future.

Toon Link didn't have one either, yet he's in :P

And Jigglypuff is relevant again because of the fact she's now part Fairy type. I don't think the priority in Brawl means the exact same for SSB4. Also Jigglypuff from what I hear is one of the easier characters to program. I don't see Jigglypuff leaving.
 
i'm doubting that any pokemon will be cut. i think it's going to be the brawl cast + mewtwo.
 
I honestly feel the same way about Fire Emblem characters. I think that the series has garnered enough popularity since Brawl to have a third character. Marth's not going anywhere, Ike was one of the more popular newcomers in Brawl and there's already Awakening content on the 3DS version so it wouldn't surprise me at all if Chrom, Lucina, or even the Avatar showed up as playable. Or they could throw a curve ball and bring Roy back.
 
Mienfoo said:
I honestly feel the same way about Fire Emblem characters. Marth's not going anywhere, Ike was one of the more popular newcomers in Brawl.
Uh, you look like feeling a contrary way... For the fact that some characters would be cut, Ike would very possibly be another Roy while a new game representive is more possible. Even that SSB allow three representives for FE, Ike could also be replaced by another hero/heroine.
 
Dorayaki said:
Mienfoo said:
I honestly feel the same way about Fire Emblem characters. Marth's not going anywhere, Ike was one of the more popular newcomers in Brawl.
Uh, you look like feeling a contrary way... For the fact that some characters would be cut, Ike would very possibly be another Roy while a new game representive is more possible. Even that SSB allow three representives for FE, Ike could also be replaced by another hero/heroine.

The difference betwen Ike and Roy is that Ike was not a clone of Marth. That alone has me thinking he's more likely to stay, it just really depends what Sakurai wants the Fire Emblem representation to be like.

But if there are 3 Fire Emblem reps, I am 100% sure Ike is returning. It's questionable if there's only room for two though.
 
Dorayaki said:
Mienfoo said:
I honestly feel the same way about Fire Emblem characters. Marth's not going anywhere, Ike was one of the more popular newcomers in Brawl.
Uh, you look like feeling a contrary way... For the fact that some characters would be cut, Ike would very possibly be another Roy while a new game representive is more possible. Even that SSB allow three representives for FE, Ike could also be replaced by another hero/heroine.
I'm pretty sure Fire Emblem deserves three reps by now. I don't think Ike will be "replaced".
 
Northern Verve said:
Toon Link didn't have one either, yet he's in :P
Not to say bad examples, I personally want to see a new Toon Link game since I also like this series and he can have an ongoing title to represent.

Northern Verve said:
The difference betwen Ike and Roy is that Ike was not a clone of Marth. That alone has me thinking he's more likely to stay, it just really depends what Sakurai wants the Fire Emblem representation to be like.
But if there are 3 Fire Emblem reps, I am 100% sure Ike is returning. It's questionable if there's only room for two though.
Maybe. I just mean that I'd also like to see a classic hero/heroine beside Ike.
 
Dorayaki said:
Northern Verve said:
Toon Link didn't have one either, yet he's in :P
Not to say bad examples, I personally want to see a new Toon Link game since I also like this series and he can have an ongoing title to represent.

Northern Verve said:
The difference betwen Ike and Roy is that Ike was not a clone of Marth. That alone has me thinking he's more likely to stay, it just really depends what Sakurai wants the Fire Emblem representation to be like.
But if there are 3 Fire Emblem reps, I am 100% sure Ike is returning. It's questionable if there's only room for two though.
Maybe. I just mean that I'd also like to see a classic hero/heroine beside Ike.
Dorayaki said:
Northern Verve said:
Toon Link didn't have one either, yet he's in :P
Not to say bad examples, I personally want to see a new Toon Link game since I also like this series and he can have an ongoing title to represent.
Toon Link has had a few games already. The most recent game he was in was Spirit Tracks (and the Wind Waker remake [I assume the remake still refers him as Toon Link]), and A Link Between Worlds is coming out in a few weeks.
 
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