United States Presidential Election, 2012

Dr. Javelin said:
One thing that irritates me about the separation of church and state is that it was intended to stop government intervention in the church but now it's interpreted as to prevent church interference in the government.

why

Because the church will fuck up the government.

Dr. Javelin said:
Good. I'd be happy with Santorum as president, even if he does seem a bit inexperienced.

Santorum thinks gay marriage is equal to bestiality. PRESIDENTIALNESS.
Marwikedor said:
They would have thrown you in an insane asylum in the 1950s if you suggested it.

That's because the 1950s sucked.
 
When in doubt about politics, consult the SMW forum.


Can someone sum up for me what each of the GOP candidates stand for/defend/condemn/whatever?
 
That's an awesome reference site. That might be one of the only unbiased political sites I've ever seen.
 
Sharks Territory said:
That's an awesome reference site. That might be one of the only unbiased political sites I've ever seen.

Politifact is pretty unbiased too. It may have a bit of a liberal slant, but that may just be because conservative politicians tend to be the ones saying their opponent is causing swine flu or whatever the hell it is this week, and thus require debunking. Liberal politicians are usually safe and boring.
 
Thanks :) I don't like them much, but the one I dislike the least is probably Paul, but from what I've seen I think he won't win the primaries or whatever you call that.
 
My problem with Paul, as I've said before, is that he doesn't want to give money to Israel and he doesn't want to interfere with Iran's nuclear program.
 
I like how people complain about the United States always interfering with other countries affairs, but then complain when the United States doesn't interfere in other countries affairs.
 
Sharks Territory said:
My problem with Paul, as I've said before, is that he doesn't want to give money to Israel and he doesn't want to interfere with Iran's nuclear program.

What's so great about Israel anyway? I get the religious perspective on it, but you've never struck me as particularly religious.
 
Ralphfan is Jewish, so therefore Israel gets special exception to the "stop meddling with other countries' business!" rule.
 
I never said the US shouldn't be in people's business. They probably shouldn't have gotten themselves into all of this in the first place, but now that they're in it, backing out would completely upset the worldwide balance of power.
 
This hasn't been updated in awhile, so.

Romney won Michigan, Arizona, and Wyoming a few days ago, and the state of Washington votes today.
 
I may not agree with a lot of the opinions on CNN (seriously, they said that Iowa was the most important primary. what), but I do agree with this: If Gingrich fails to win Georgia, he's doomed.
 
Dr. Javelin said:
I may not agree with a lot of the opinions on CNN (seriously, they said that Iowa was the most important primary. what), but I do agree with this: If Gingrich fails to win Georgia, he's doomed.

I highly dislike how smaller states really decide the outcome of the race (like Iowa and New Hampshire), yet bigger states don't vote until late into the race, when most candidates have already dropped out (states like California, Texas, and Pennsylvania).

But yeah, Georgia is his only chance to revive his campaign. This is probably Santorum's biggest chance to revive his campaign too after performing so poorly in polls and the CNN debate the other week, if he can pull off wins in Oklahoma, Tennessee, and Ohio.
 
I've also heard reports that if Romney gets at least Ohio, the race is pretty much over.
 
I don't care I don't really follow politics. I'm one of those people who avoid the news because there's never any good news on the news.
 
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I would still feel that the federal government isn't permitted by the Constitution to have any role in relief for natural disasters.
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You're joking.

You can't be that heartless and/or stupid.
 
Nosferatu Man said:
You're joking.

You can't be that heartless and/or stupid.
Dude, all he was saying was when the goverment gets involved all the goverment red-tape and bureaucracy hinders relief efforts.
 
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redacted] I would still feel that the federal government isn't permitted by the Constitution to have any role in relief for natural disasters. [/quote] You're joking. You can't be that heartless and/or stupid. [/quote] It's repetitive to see you call people "stupid" all the time said:
Nosferatu Man said:
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I would still feel that the federal government isn't permitted by the Constitution to have any role in relief for natural disasters.

You're joking.

You can't be that heartless and/or stupid.
Dude, all he was saying was when the goverment gets involved all the goverment red-tape and bureaucracy hinders relief efforts.

Um, no. He clarified after I responded. First he said "The government shouldn't get involved in disaster relief." Considering the usual "the-unfortunate-can-go-fuck-themselves" view of the Republican party, I took it at face value.
 
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