United States Presidential Election, 2012

You can't get offended when I misinterpret your reasonable comment as a batshit insane comment when your idol Ron Paul is equally likely to say either one.


It's rather like hearing Chris Brown say "I like to punch things." He could mean that he likes to punch holes in paper. But you'll probably think he means that he likes to punch people. Because Chris Brown does that shit.
 
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It's not the fact that you misinterpreted my comment that makes me mad, it's that you decided call me stupid or heartless over my comment that you misinterpreted (and even misquoted).[/quote]

I probably would have said something wittier if it wasn't midnight when I posted it.

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And well, no, Ron Paul wouldn't at all be likely to say that local governments can't get involved in helping people after natural disasters since he has said that it is a situation that is reserved, by the Tenth Amendment, to the states and The People and not delegated by the Constitution to the federal government.[/quote]

Okay, fair enough. I wasn't even really thinking about the local government; I just saw the comment and thought "oh, for fuck's sake, another one?" Then I insulted you and went to bed.

I shouldn't have jumped to a conclusion, though; it was immature of me. I apologize.

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And also, Ron Paul is not my idol, he is just the representative of something greater: a good, honest candidate
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So basically, he's the conservative equivalent of how Obama was viewed in the 2008 elections?

That's interesting, actually.
 
Romney has won Virginia, Vermont, and Mass.,; Santorum has won Oklahoma and Tennessee, and Gingrich has won Georgia. Ohio is too close to tell, and I haven't heard anything about North Dakota or Idaho.
 
Red Barchetta said:
Romney has won Virginia, Vermont, and Mass.,; Santorum has won Oklahoma and Tennessee, and Gingrich has won Georgia. Ohio is too close to tell, and I haven't heard anything about North Dakota or Idaho.

According to the Huffington Post, Santorum is leading in North Dakota and Ohio. Idaho hasn't finished yet (not sure if it's even started). Things aren't looking good for Paul.
 
Mario4Ever said:
Red Barchetta said:
Romney has won Virginia, Vermont, and Mass.,; Santorum has won Oklahoma and Tennessee, and Gingrich has won Georgia. Ohio is too close to tell, and I haven't heard anything about North Dakota or Idaho.

According to the Huffington Post, Santorum is leading in North Dakota and Ohio. Idaho hasn't finished yet (not sure if it's even started). Things aren't looking good for Paul.

Idaho just finished voting, so now we just wait for the results. Romney will probably pull off a win in Alaska (voting started today but doesn't end until I think the 24th).
 
According to this, we're just waiting for Alaska's and Idaho's polls to close, and nothing's scheduled for the 24th except for Louisiana.
 
Mario4Ever said:
According to this, we're just waiting for Alaska's and Idaho's polls to close, and nothing's scheduled for the 24th except for Louisiana.
According to Wikipedia:

"The 2012 Alaska Republican caucuses will take place from March 6-24, 2012. The presidential preference poll portion of the caucuses is scheduled to be conducted between 4 pm and 8 pm local time (which is 8 pm to midnight EST) at locations across the state and one caucus in Washington, DC."

It's basically like Wyoming and Maine - they don't all vote on the date the polls start; they go on for a few weeks.
 
Sharks Territory said:
And zero for Ron Paul.

Israel should rejoice.

Ok, Ralph, we all know you're Jewish by now. We all don't need you to reinforce that with every single thing you post in this topic. Do you have any other topics you're concerned about? Anything? Is there at least one other issue that you think is relevant in any debate, or some other topic that should go into consideration for what our President should be doing? Anything?
 
Well, as I said before, I feel that the USA plays an important role in the worldwide balance of power and withdrawing now would be like building up a giant tower while playing Jenga, with the tower all relying on a gigantic block in the middle (I know all the Jenga blocks are one size but we're pretending here.) If that block is removed, everything collapses. That would happen if the US is to withdraw completely from foreign situations.

I also feel that some of the comments Paul has made over the years are horribly over the line.
 
Hey if Israel gets money from America, can we get money as well? I'd rather have that instead of all those yankees with guns up in Darwin. Indonesia is feeling a bit scared of you blokes, too, so it'd be much appreciated if you processed those soldiers into Australian currency ASAP!
 
OK, so, here's what each candidate won:

Mitt Romney: Idaho, Ohio, Vermont, Virginia, Mass., likely to win Alaska

Rick Santorum: Tennessee, Oklahoma, North Dakota

Newt Gingrich: Georgia

Ron Paul: none
 
Here's a nifty little map that Wikipedia has:
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Orange is Romney, Green is Santorum, Purple is Gingrich.
 
Judging by that map I think Santorum will win most, if not all, of the central states (North Dakota, South Dakota, Kansas, Nebraska, Texas, all of those). Kansas, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands, and the U.S. Virgin Islands vote on the 10th, so we'll see how Kansas works out for him.
 
Red Barchetta said:
OK, so, here's what each candidate won:

Mitt Romney: Idaho, Ohio, Vermont, Virginia, Mass., likely to win Alaska

Rick Santorum: Tennessee, Oklahoma, North Dakota

Newt Gingrich: Georgia

Ron Paul: none

Rick Santorum is in second place? Fuck that guy.

Red Barchetta said:
Judging by that map I think Santorum will win most, if not all, of the central states (North Dakota, South Dakota, Kansas, Nebraska, Texas, all of those). Kansas, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands, and the U.S. Virgin Islands vote on the 10th, so we'll see how Kansas works out for him.

That's genuinely terrifying. What has happened to us?
 
How does Santorum have Iowa? He's a well-known ignorant homophobe, and Iowa is one of few states to allow gay marriage.
 
Hypnotoad said:
How does Santorum have Iowa? He's a well-known ignorant homophobe, and Iowa is one of few states to allow gay marriage.
Santorum won Iowa by less than fifty votes, so it was pretty evenly split.
 
Updating this:

Santorum won Kansas the other day, Romney officially won Wyoming, and Ron Paul actually won the United States Virgin Islands (nothing big but noteworthy because it's Paul's first actual win).

Alabama, Mississippi, Hawaii, and American Samoa all vote today. Alabama and Mississippi seem to be too close in polls for anybody to win (Romney, Gingrich, and Santorum have all had leads in polls since the beginning of March), the last Hawaii poll done had Herman Cain winning (obviously, done back in October), and I haven't seen anything about American Samoa.

MAJOR UPDATE: Rick Santorum has pulled off surprise wins in both Alabama and Mississippi. Hawaii's polls don't close until after midnight EST, and I'm not sure about American Samoa yet.
 
Red Barchetta said:
MAJOR UPDATE: Rick Santorum has pulled off surprise wins in both Alabama and Mississippi. Hawaii's polls don't close until after midnight EST, and I'm not sure about American Samoa yet.

I hope he gets the nomination- then Obama will definitely win.
 
Nosferatu Man said:
Red Barchetta said:
MAJOR UPDATE: Rick Santorum has pulled off surprise wins in both Alabama and Mississippi. Hawaii's polls don't close until after midnight EST, and I'm not sure about American Samoa yet.
I hope he gets the nomination- then Obama will definitely win.
Everyone always says that, but if the Republican Party decided to stop focusing on "electability" and just go elect their favorite candidate, Romney would be toast and the other candidate (Gingrich or Santorum, though maybe Paul) would actually have more votes and therefore be more electable.
 
Dr. Javelin said:
Nosferatu Man said:
Red Barchetta said:
MAJOR UPDATE: Rick Santorum has pulled off surprise wins in both Alabama and Mississippi. Hawaii's polls don't close until after midnight EST, and I'm not sure about American Samoa yet.
I hope he gets the nomination- then Obama will definitely win.
Everyone always says that, but if the Republican Party decided to stop focusing on "electability" and just go elect their favorite candidate, Romney would be toast and the other candidate (Gingrich or Santorum, though maybe Paul) would actually have more votes and therefore be more electable.

I agree with Javelin. I don't understand why people think a guy who lost to the man (McCain) who lost to Obama in the general election will beat Obama... if anybody, like Javelin said, Gingrich and Santorum would probably be the most electable (especially Santorum).

(also, just a side note, Romney did win Hawaii and American Samoa a few days ago)
 
Red Barchetta said:
I agree with Javelin. I don't understand why people think a guy who lost to the man (McCain) who lost to Obama in the general election will beat Obama... if anybody, like Javelin said, Gingrich and Santorum would probably be the most electable (especially Santorum).

(also, just a side note, Romney did win Hawaii and American Samoa a few days ago)

John McCain was pretty awesome in his heyday but Obama turned out to be awesomer. So now the Republican party is desperate to appeal to independent voters to get rid of Obama, and since Romney is the least nutty of the current candidates (by way of being totally boring- whereas Gingrich and Santorum are interesting, but Gingrich isn't exactly very credible when it comes to conservatives' 'family values' message, and Santorum is a religious fanatic) they think he can win them over.
 
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