United States Presidential Election, 2012

[Mariorules25]

 

[Tyrell Badd]

Well, I voted Romney for those of you who care. Please don't bother to berate me about it or ask why. Not a single fuck will be given.

I was going to ask why, just out of curiosity, but it appears you're being a dick, so I won't..

Yup, I'm a dick for having a different opinion than you and everyone else. But it's ok, I predicted that if anyone here is going to call me out it'd be you.

 

[Dr. Javelin]

So I'm starting a revolution.

Well, I voted Romney for those of you who care. Please don't bother to berate me about it or ask why. Not a single fuck will be given.

I was going to ask why, just out of curiosity, but it appears you're being a dick, so I won't.

actually that looks more like you at the moment

Opinion at my school was split between welfare advocates (who were obviously ecstatic) and those who where like "they were both bad so this changes nothing."

I managed to connect with quite a few Libertarians at my school who were as elated as I was about Gary Johnson obtaining >1,000,000 votes.

Any predictions for 2016 yet? It seems to me that Chris Christie would be a great option for the Republican Party if he decides to run. I don't know who the Democrats would go with.

Also, Gary Johnson is likely to run again as the Libertarian in 2016. Perhaps the climate will have changed? I don't know if his anti-trust suit against the RNC, DNC, and Committee for Presidential Debates ever went through or not.

 

[GalacticPetey]

I like Chris Christie. I think he'd be a good candidate.

 

[Pokemon DP]

I am going to move to America and start a Chocolate Party

vote for me and I'll rebuild the entire country and its economy with chocolate, or any variety of sweet alternatives in case you're not into chocolate. Sugar-free sweets for diabetics or people on diets.

 

[Specific Neptune]

You'll have to complete with my party.

 

[User4042]

I was kind of in the middle. I was supporting some of Obama's and some of Romney's. But hey, I still have eight years before I can vote. However, I am mainly Republican, so I got mad at Romney for his "don't let the illegal immigrants get citizenship or education unless they serve in the military" thing.

 

[Toad Eightyfive]

Any predictions for 2016 yet? It seems to me that Chris Christie would be a great option for the Republican Party if he decides to run.

except he's even more of a dick than romney

trust me i'm from nj

 

[Red Barchetta]

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I'd find it interesting to see Rand Paul run as a Republican. He has the name recognition due to being a Tea Party-backed Senator and being his father's son, isn't neoconservative, is libertarian enough to pull in a good number (if not most) of his father's supporters, but also a little friendlier with the establishment GOP. I think he could potentially be a good choice to reunite the Republican Party, rather than alienate people from within.
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I actually wouldn't mind this. I'd also like to see Marco Rubio.

With that being said, there's a number of names being thrown out there. Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, Nikki Haley, Mike Huckabee, Rick Santorum, Bobby Jindal, John Kasich, Susana Martinez, Bob McDonnell, Sarah Palin, Rick Perry, Rob Portman, Condoleezza Rice, Rubio, and Paul Ryan, just to name a few.

 

[Garlic Man]

From the GOP, I would say Rubio has high potential for 2016.

 

[KPH2293]

I voted for Mitt Romney, so I'm not particularly happy right now. But, to quote Romney himself (his concession speech): "This is a time of great challenges for America, and I pray that the president will be successful in guiding our nation."

Good luck, Mr. President.

 

[GalacticPetey]

Holy crap I didn't know you still came on the forum.

 

[Mario4Ever]

Yeah, he emerges from the dark recesses of the Internet every now and again.

Anyway, I think Rubio'd have a shot in 2016.

 

[Dr. Javelin]

Any predictions for 2016 yet? It seems to me that Chris Christie would be a great option for the Republican Party if he decides to run.

except he's even more of a dick than romney

trust me i'm from nj

as long as he isn't as clueless as romney i'm okay with that

course, romney wasn't the most clueless. that award will always belong to rick perry.

With that being said, there's a number of names being thrown out there. ...Nikki Haley

you don't even know how unpopular she is here in SC. it's unbelievable.

so i would say no.

 

[Toad Eightyfive]

Any predictions for 2016 yet? It seems to me that Chris Christie would be a great option for the Republican Party if he decides to run.

except he's even more of a dick than romney

trust me i'm from nj

as long as he isn't as clueless as romney i'm okay with that

course, romney wasn't the most clueless. that award will always belong to rick perry.

True, I'll give him that. He does know how to govern a state relatively well. And he's not one of the insano neo-conservative Repubs we all too often see in that party.

Still doesn't excuse his dickishness, though.

 

[Dr. Javelin]

He did hold up to his word of "I'll praise Obama when he deserves praise, and scorn him when he deserves scorn" by saying Obama did a great job handling Hurricane Sandy's aftermath.

And from what I can tell, it seems more of "blunt truth" than just being rude.

 

[Garlic Man]

As for Dem, I'd totally vote for Biden if he ran

 

[Scarecrow von Steuben]

Well, I voted Romney for those of you who care. Please don't bother to berate me about it or ask why. Not a single fuck will be given.

I was going to ask why, just out of curiosity, but it appears you're being a dick, so I won't..

Yup, I'm a dick for having a different opinion than you and everyone else. But it's ok, I predicted that if anyone here is going to call me out it'd be you.

I was talking about you being overly aggressive for no apparent reason, I don't give a fuck who you voted for. Sorry if I phrased that badly (I did).

So I'm starting a revolution.

The Democratic and Republican parties are both evil, and they are both failing America.

That's something people like to say. I think a good portion of the reason is because it's easy. Democrats don't mind when you say it because you're bashing republicans and republicans don't really mind when you say it because you're bashing democrats. Actually, neither party is evil, though I certainly think the republican social platform is wrong (as I'm sure I've made clear, perhaps excessively so, in this thread). But evil is just ridiculous. I mean, I've made my loathing of Rick Santorum well known, but I just think he's a dick, not Satan. And the democrats? What have they done that could be classified as 'evil'? The democratic party is often wimpy, they give up easily, they're pretty naive, but evil is an extreme exaggeration.

I believe that the federal government should back off. This country is too large and too diverse for a single massive body to manage properly. I believe that our states should be the center of our law-making.

Have you seen the amount of crazy shit that gets passed at a state level? Like Arizona's impossible-to-enforce-yet-disturbingly-fascistic "no being mean on the internet" law?

Clearly you have:

Yes, that means there’s going to be places where religious intolerance, homophobia and other such ignorance runs rampant.

But that also means that people like you and me can make a fucking difference.

No it doesn't. It means that the crazy shit can get passed quietly with minimal media attention. If SOPA had been passed on a state-by-state basis, there would have been virtually none of the protests and general outrage that led to it losing almost all of its support and collapsing. There's a law that people are trying to get passed in Wisconsin that would make being a single parent into child abuse.

Instead of swaying two thirds of the country out of archaic ways and hatred, we could start small- from a community to a state to a portion of the country to all of it.

But that's not how it works. Hatred builds and builds and spreads until it does something so crazy that it burns itself out (i.e. Republican positions on rape). Hatred thrives in small communities because there's no one to say no.

Instead of a massive country where the laws are chosen by the majority and enforced over the rest of the population, why not a country where we /all/ stand together in love and understanding?

That's the point of democracy, so that the laws are chosen by everyone. It doesn't really work like that, but it's the best we've got.

Why not have a country where everybody has a chance to compete in a free market, a country that isn’t born with winners and losers, a country that doesn’t discriminate and deny progress?

That was sort of the point of America in the first place.



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I'd find it interesting to see Rand Paul run as a Republican. He has the name recognition due to being a Tea Party-backed Senator and being his father's son, isn't neoconservative, is libertarian enough to pull in a good number (if not most) of his father's supporters, but also a little friendlier with the establishment GOP. I think he could potentially be a good choice to reunite the Republican Party, rather than alienate people from within.

Of course, there are others within the GOP that I could support, but I think Rand Paul probably has the most in his favor.

It would be neat to see Gary Johnson run for the Libertarian nomination in 2016, and there's also rumors of a Jesse Ventura/Howard Stern ticket as well (I'm not sure if he'd try for the Libertarian nomination or as an Independent... I've heard mixed things on that). I think it would be interesting to watch how that all goes.
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Rand Paul is insane.

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) won’t allow a measure extending the FEMA’s National Flood Insurance Program for five years to move forward until he gets a vote on legislation declaring that human life begins at conception.

“I think you don’t have a right to happiness — you have the right to the pursuit of happiness,” Paul, an ophthalmologist, said in a 2009 Kentucky town hall meeting. “f you think you have the right to health care, you are saying basically that I am your slave. I provide health care. … My staff and technicians provide it. … If you have a right to health care, then you have a right to their labor.”

Rand Paul says mislabeled bad milk is Free Speech, accurate FDA label laws are censorship

HANNITY: Did you hear about the case today? It was a couple and they found these gold double eagle coins from 1939, I think, is the year. And they’re worth like $80 million. Now a court case it was in, because they had, I guess, confiscated them or asked people to turn them in . . . but [the government] had the ten coins or whatever it was. And they said “no, we’re taking them, and you don’t get a penny.”

PAUL: It’s sort of like the Nazis taking paintings from Jewish families during the war and saying you don’t get them back. Well they’re yours, they’re still yours even if you find it 60 years later.

 

[Stargatedalek]

If only Stephen Colbert would run for president, when for once it might be a clear vote...

 

[Garlic Man]

He did run for president. Where were you?

 

[Stargatedalek]

I thought he dropped out?
I meant for real not joke candidate...

 

[Contra(dictory)]

My old Boss and my current are debating.

not sure if I should squeal with joy or reel back in terror

 

[Scarecrow von Steuben]

@*redacted*: I'm not really sure what to say, because this is a matter of which methods are preferred to achieve essentially the same results. This is the sort of debate, however, that I wish was more common in politics, because both sides want the same thing and it's just a civil discussion of which methods should be used to get there.

also i have to go so i can't really elaborate any further

 

[Toad Eightyfive]

I thought he dropped out?
I meant for real not joke candidate...

He did try to run for real in the 2008 Republican primary. But only in his home state of South Carolina.

If I remember correctly, he got his ass handed to him.

 

[Red Barchetta]

I thought he dropped out?
I meant for real not joke candidate...

He did try to run for real in the 2008 Republican primary. But only in his home state of South Carolina.

If I remember correctly, he got his ass handed to him.

I thought he asked for his fans to vote for Herman Cain in the 2008 Republican primary for SC?