For everything Bowser

I think female characters are never safe from large groups of "artists".
 
Nobody male or female is safe from fanart.
 
Well, come to think about it, Mario isn't much better since you get Mario stoned from Mushrooms or being grossly exaggerated or being grossly realistic.

They're all horrid.

Mcmadness said:
Nobody male or female is safe from fanart.
Hence the rule, which is why I invoked "large groups" because the females get more attention.

But, on topic, WHY Bowser?
 
i made the mistake of googling bowser images with the safesearch off when i was young and stupid

never again
 
I don't know why Bowser! Whats the appeal!?

images

AND YOUR NOT HELPING!!!!
 
Maybe from this whole Bowser kidnapping Peach and how Koopalings suddenly appeared.
 
Bowser has the hots for Peach sure, but its entirely onesided (not that it would stop shipping)

As for koopalings, storks.
 
Mcmadness said:
So, apparently Bowser is fairly popular with the gay part of the fandom, especially with fanart of deviantart.

Wonder why?

uh, confirmation bias?
 
a ha ha ha hahaha i can't believe this conversation is happening
 
Please don't use deviantART as your barometer for anything except what people with zero taste think, but that being said, as a ~leading expert~ :blooper: on this subject I can agree that Bowser is popular, and it doesn't have to necessarily be porn like really 80% of it is SFW so you guys can all keep your pants on and stop shitting yourselves about it existing and stop invoking Rule34 as if it's still 2006. It's pretty much because Bowser is like one of the only characters within the entire Marioverse that has a multifaceted personality which ranges from a hulking brute to the "regent of romance", combined with how he can easily be anthropomorphized without bringing too much of the furry stigma into everything. He can also be easily drawn as a heavy dude, or muscly, and that recent Kyary Pamyu Pamyu ad really made advances into a whole different field for him. Mario has nothing, Luigi has nothing, Peach is only there because Bowser is. You're only gonna find art of anyone else if that individual artist has that particular interest.

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wat a cutie
 
Umi Sonoda said:
i can

still stupid regardless

but zae-kun, you think EVERYTHING is stupid

also wow look everyone i summoned the world expert on the appeal of bowser to sate your respective curiosities

shower me with gifts. yesterday was my birthday you know
 
Derpl Zork said:
It's pretty much because Bowser is like one of the only characters within the entire Marioverse that has a multifaceted personality which ranges from a hulking brute to the "regent of romance", combined with how he can easily be anthropomorphized without bringing too much of the furry stigma into everything. He can also be easily drawn as a heavy dude, or muscly, and that recent Kyary Pamyu Pamyu ad really made advances into a whole different field for him.

meh, you could do that to practically ANY character as long as you have artistic talent, passion, and, uh, creativity that doesn't foray into X-rated stuff
 
Baby Luigi said:
Derpl Zork said:
It's pretty much because Bowser is like one of the only characters within the entire Marioverse that has a multifaceted personality which ranges from a hulking brute to the "regent of romance", combined with how he can easily be anthropomorphized without bringing too much of the furry stigma into everything. He can also be easily drawn as a heavy dude, or muscly, and that recent Kyary Pamyu Pamyu ad really made advances into a whole different field for him.

meh, you could do that to practically ANY character as long as you have artistic talent, passion, and, uh, creativity that doesn't foray into X-rated stuff

No, not "meh any character could have that if ____", no. Bowser as a canon character has those canon traits and is flexible and has a canon personality that can fit more things than "~he can be whatever you want~" like tofu mario. Of course you could always just fabricate a totally different personality for any character but if you do that, is it really that character anymore? And what's the big deal about "x-rated stuff"? You can totally be creative and like porn and draw porn and also draw and like stuff that's not porn like really geeze I know you don't like the stuff but does that really objectively make it literally the most awful and sub-human thing ever?

Bowser is excellent because his concept was written by his creators in such a well-rounded way that he can fit into many roles and personas and situations without breaking character, not because he's a blank slate for deviantart.com and fanfiction.net to scribble on instead of doing homework, and I guess he's well-liked by the gay audience because he's all of this stuff and all of that stuff I said in my first post.
 
also let's not gloss over the fact that bowser routinely goes about his business while wearing nothing but bdsm gear
 
yeah that's cool too, also that somehow putting him in shorts makes him look more scantily clad than just being naked like how he normally is
 
Derpl Zork said:
No, not "meh any character could have that if ____", no. Bowser as a canon character has those canon traits and is flexible and has a canon personality that can fit more things than "~he can be whatever you want~" like tofu mario. Of course you could always just fabricate a totally different personality for any character but if you do that, is it really that character anymore?

When I draw things, I fit things in accordance to my tastes, so in a sense, yes, I can flex characters in basically any way I want them. When characters have even less of a personality, that even gives me more artistic integrity to do whatever I want about that, actually. The Mario games don't really have an established canon anyway, it's up to the individual to decide what's canon or not, that's the beauty of the Mario series. And is there anything wrong to portray Bowser anything totally out of character? I would find it amusing to see Bowser depicted in a cowardly manner, personally. It really depends on what you're into.

Derpl Zork said:
I know you don't like the stuff but does that really objectively make it literally the most awful and sub-human thing ever?

Well first, that was never my original argument; I never implied anything that it would be objectively bad and if I did, it's not my stance on this. In fact, I was sorta responding to how you said "furry stigma into everything", which is why I brought up the point that you can do this without making it NSFW. But anyhow, I'm allowed to have an opinion on this stuff, and if I'm disgusted by it, I'm allowed to say that I'm not a fan of it without others saying that if I don't like it, don't look at it. I won't actively encourage banning it or censoring stuff like that, that's plain stupid and it stifles freedom of what people can do online.
 
Fair enough. Though everything is still pretty subjective. Personally Bowser is not an interesting character to me but to each his own.
 
I was under the impression that all Mario characters, including Bowser, were kept vague so they could easily be used for multiple different situations.

Bowser especially, its why he goes from a bumbling, incompetent, too dumb to tie his own shoes (if he ever wore any) idiot who isn't even all that evil, to a somewhat smart king of evil who is able to threaten countries/the world/ the universe on a large scale.
 
Well, ignoring the ''press button to defeat me'' stuff. (since I personally feel thats largely a gameplay thing, nothing more) his most idiotic moments off the top of my head were.

Talking to a poster thinking its really Peach.

Having to actually be spelt out the fact that if the world is destroyed, there won't be any world for him to rule.

Being a gullible idiot and trusting Fawful, twice.

Doesn't recognize his younger self.
 
the poster thing was just a joke about the art style... a poster looked identical to the real thing because its paper mario...

and uh... if i were suddenly confronted with a younger version of myself i wouldn't know what i was looking at either

the rest of it i dont even remember because i hated spm and played bis in japanese
 
Well if it means anything, I hate the SPM version of Bowser since I pretty much see it as a mockery of his character.
 
I think the reason Peach wasn't sure of being Junior's mom was because she had her share of "Mario Parties" while kidnapped.

Plus, babies dont come from vaginas in the nintendoverse. They come from storks.
 
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