The vast majority of the libertarian people and the libertarian organizations I'm familiar with strongly support vaccinations, I don't think this is a generally-libertarian approach as you are putting others in danger.Striker Mario said:
F-777 said:
But not everyone has common sense. This country (and the world in general) has completely egotistical morons who have no consideration for everyone else.F-777 said:
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"-SpockBaby Luigi said:
That's why I tried to be careful about characterizing libertarians without sounding like I'm generalizing them. But there's no denying that there are people who use the guise of "personal health freedom" to refuse to vaccinate or push for laws that soften vaccine mandates (this includes personal/religious exemption; mind you, those philosophical objects are no good). I believe there is a fraction within the libertarian movement that is opposed to vaccines, though I don't know whenever the people here are representative of this. I do say, however, that their "reasoning" doesn't really contradict that much with libertarian ideals, which are limited government for personal freedom. Of course, they are probably fringe people and they give libertarianism a bad name, especially when the organizations you cite DO strongly support vaccination (which I think it's kind of surprising since they usually don't like government mandates and they like to advocate personal choice).Hobbes said:
The only valid reason to not vaccinate are medical reasons such as weakened immune system. The other reasons (autism, the possibility of vaccine complications, SIDS, thiomersal, "too many too soon") are usually unfounded and not based in science to justify skipping vaccines.F-777 said:
Whilst it sounds like you and I share similar political views, I do disagree with this point. Whilst it would be beneficial for society for everyone to be engaged in politics, there's the simple fact that quite a lot just don't care, and will likely throw their vote to any which way party instead of making a fully informed decision, which could result in the rise of racist or joke parties.Striker Mario said:
True, and then there are people who think their votes don't matter (of course, you have that technicality that 2257 keeps pointing out but it's not a reason NOT to vote) but there are also people who make lots of excuses to not vote... I agree, it's a very complex issue (just as with most things) so you're right: my opinion is too simplistic.Grim said:
