What game did you last play?!?!?!?

Don't worry, I'm nearing the finale of the first secret ending and I'll probably finish the final final ending tonight. Some of the ideas I was toying around in that second spoiler with turned out to be correct~

I love this story.
 
gotta go fast (by holding down right forever).

okay.
woooow, that ending. I was convinced that June had some connection to Zero and now... actually she might still have one lol, I really didn't think anything about Santa until I saw that ending and now I'm like, the one that I was least suspicious of is now unaccounted for in this ending. Completely gone. What does this mean? fuck, idk.
time to figure out what the fuck is going on. I'm in too deep now so I can't stop until I'm done.
 
I mean, yeah but you can still skip most of the inbetween stuff before the paths change. After you've done two runs you'll be able to do the consecutive ones faaaaaaar quicker.
 
Well this current third run had me go through door 4 again and the doors I haven't entered yet; 7 and 6, so this run hardly feels faster, bar the start I guess.

But I'm pretty sure after this one the following runs will be almost entirely super speed until the end.
 
Lyn said:
GBAToad said:
Lyn said:
Wow that was the one I got.
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go get the rest of them now before crackin beats you
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I just got another one from that spurring me (did almost an entire playthrough in one long session, I was in the first puzzle beyond Door 4 when I resumed), but wow it triggered me.

everyone died and I passed out because of how it concluded, it was the sub ending.

First the ninth man, then Seven, then Santa + Clover + Ace, then June, then Lotus + Seven, and then Junpei but he just so happened to die underwater which triggered me so hard because I almost did(?) today and that literally resurfaced those terrible memories, aaaaaaaargh.

If everyone died, it literally can't be any of them... plus the person had a gun which I do not think anyone else had access to, so it must've been someone else, and I would say Zero but that seems too obvious but I'm still going to guess it was him, unless June maybe faked her death or the captain was alive in that scenario or something.
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!!!

So I just found a gun, that must be what killed me in the other ending.

But we could only go through door 2 based on the route I took, so I'm not sure how anyone got access to it. Also, given that there were six bullets, and everyone but June and obviously Junpei did not show signs of life upon finding them killed, it seriously must be June who did it, because Junpei obviously got shot and she was the only one in the room with him to my knowledge, making her the most likely culprit.

Adding on to what Clover said, she may very well be Zero in disguise, because admittedly I feel the whole "childhood fiends happen to meet in some nonary game" a little too suspicious for them to just let off as a coincidence, there must be something up with "her".

EDIT: Also salso, there were six bullets in the gun. That's very odd, considering that's assuming someone will take the gun and shoot the six other survivors, also assuming that two of the original nine are already dead. Interesting.

idk though I just let out my thoughts before I even got whatever ending this is
 
Yeah I thought that too, but then I thought another thing and now I'm nearing the end of the final path and I'm back at square one on who Zero is. I don't know what could be right or wrong and so I'm just going to finish it now so I can find out. I've written down like entire paragraphs and then deleted them because each time I finish them I'm like 'wait, it could be THIS' and then I write down another and repeat the cycle lel.

There's one idea in my head that is a bit far fetched but... if it ends up being that then I'm a based god.
 
welp just got stabbed in the back

Also tfw there's two 9 doors, so classy Zero. Anyway given they killed both Lotus and I, which is 8+5=13, and how they seemed to be acting alone, they must really want one of the 9 doors for themselves. But the only combinations for that are 6+7 (June+Seven), 3+2 (Santa + Snake), and 1+4 (Ace+Clover). Snake may be dead but I dunno maybe someone snatched his bracelet when everyone split up, that's what happened to the captain in the Axe ending, so that's possible and means Santa could have done this alone. I can't really see June and Seven cooperating admittedly and there's not much grounds for it because they were both alive prior and separated, plus the culprit is one person and while June/Seven could've killed the other, it doesn't feel very solid if you ask me.

Clover did go missing, which makes me think her death is quite possible, but it's hard to say how relevant Ace could be based on what was seen and said before Junpei got murdererdered.

That said, the only knife I remember was in room 4, although June was in that room either way iirc, so maybe she was up to something, but it's hard to say, but it still begs the question regardless of which pair is most relevant; who pushed Snake through the door???

Whatever the truth is this story has grabbed my attention now, I must finish it today.

Maki Nishikino said:
Yeah I thought that too, but then I thought another thing and now I'm nearing the end of the final path and I'm back at square one on who Zero is. I don't know what could be right or wrong and so I'm just going to finish it now so I can find out. I've written down like entire paragraphs and then deleted them because each time I finish them I'm like 'wait, it could be THIS' and then I write down another and repeat the cycle lel.

There's one idea in my head that is a bit far fetched but... if it ends up being that then I'm a based god.
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Yeah it feels like the more you find out, the more confused you get because nothing connects too strongly yet so many bits of information seems like it's relevant in some unknown way.

Also wow final path already, rip beating you.
 
Holy shit, I might be a based god. I'm being a bit pre-emptive but its beginning to point towards what I was thinking during the fourth ending. :x or maybe because I'm thinking about it I'm seeing 'clues' that aren't actually clues. edit: NOPE i'm not seeing things, those were definitely hints.
 
"president of Cradle Pharmaceutical"

Okay so that single-handedly confirmed my partial suspicions of Ace, he's our man from the Knife ending and maybe even Zero.

EDIT: Oh and he was probably the one who knocked out Seven and took him aboard as a captive, what a scrub.
 
I'm on what I believe is the final puzzle. I have no words. :x
I'm surprised at how much this all makes sense despite it being telepathy and stuff. I called Akane being Santa's sister after the fourth ending happened, but after that... damn.

I suck at sudoku but i'll do it, god damn i'll do it ;_;
edit: finished it
god damn that was cool. fuck that was cool. It all just fell into place really, even though it kind of seemed like some sort of time paradox shenanigans was going on with Akane. Zero was Akane and she did the game to make sure Junpei played the game to send instructions via brain jank to herself when the Sudoku puzzle showed up so that she wouldn't die? Something like that. It makes sense in my head. Totally called that Santa and Akane were working together and that they were probably related somehow as soon as I heard Zero say that he failed as Akane disappeared and Santa was nowhere to be found during ending 4. Everything sort of clicked into place as you got closer to the end.

That final puzzle hnng, the music set the tone so well and just having the cry face on the bottom was like ;_; pls work

oh and I'm really glad Clover didn't die this time, she's better when she's not, y'know, a murderer or murderee

also when you get to the incinerator room and Ace has Lotus at gun point I was seriously like 'not this shit again' and silently hated Santa for a moment. Come on dude, you had a gun. How do you fuck that up.
Good game. A nice thing to spend my weekend playing, short enough to beat in two days. 18 hours and 45 minutes, you can probably get rid of about 20-30 minutes since there were times that I was preoccupied by whatever was going on around me.
 
Maki Nishikino said:
Zero was Akane and she did the game to make sure Junpei played the game to send instructions via brain jank to herself when the Sudoku puzzle showed up so that she wouldn't die? Something like that. It makes sense in my head.
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Pretty much lol. I was legit ripping my eyes out reading your observations as you played through b/c some of them were bang on really early on and I couldn't tell you until the game was finished D:

The last puzzle is legitimately the greatest/saddest moment in the game and it's just... all the foreshadowing and build-up for a simple Sudoku puzzle with so much depending on its completion makes 999 one of my favourite games ever (at least storywise). June is my fave character (next to snake) so it's no wonder i have Zero as my theme B)

Anyway it's a freakin' crazy and amazing plot continued by Virtue's Last Reward (and now Zero Time Dilemma squee) so if you ever get the chance to play the next game then I highly recommend you keep going. the impact of VLR is significantly greater if you've played 999 beforehand (and avoided spoilers for it duh)

Time-wise, I think it took me 40-something hours to finish VLR my first time (and that was with fucking around and reading all of the archive material). it's certainly worth the playthrough as well if you have the time
 
GBAToad said:
Maki Nishikino said:
Zero was Akane and she did the game to make sure Junpei played the game to send instructions via brain jank to herself when the Sudoku puzzle showed up so that she wouldn't die? Something like that. It makes sense in my head.
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Pretty much lol. I was legit ripping my eyes out reading your observations as you played through b/c some of them were bang on really early on and I couldn't tell you until the game was finished D:

The last puzzle is legitimately the greatest/saddest moment in the game and it's just... all the foreshadowing and build-up for a simple Sudoku puzzle with so much depending on its completion makes 999 one of my favourite games ever (at least storywise). June is my fave character (next to snake) so it's no wonder i have Zero as my theme B)

Anyway it's a freakin' crazy and amazing plot continued by Virtue's Last Reward (and now Zero Time Dilemma squee) so if you ever get the chance to play the next game then I highly recommend you keep going. the impact of VLR is significantly greater if you've played 999 beforehand (and avoided spoilers for it duh)

Time-wise, I think it took me 40-something hours to finish VLR my first time (and that was with fucking around and reading all of the archive material). it's certainly worth the playthrough as well if you have the time
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Ahahah to be honest I don't remember what I was noticing early on except being super sceptical of Ace. tbh it was kind of like a gut feeling, he did some strange stuff in the axe ending and from there I just couldn't see him as someone 'good'. Snake being alive I only really figured after the second run since the coffin made noises and it could only really be him, once I got to the part where Santa talked about the missing kids I immediately thought Akane could have been in it but kind of forgot about that, until they brought it up again so the thing I wrote off as sloppy guesswork ended up being right.

June was great, idk who my favourite would be. I liked June, Seven and Clover a lot. Seeing the two screens and having both Junpei and crying kid Akane reflecting on the screens was like a real 'wooooooaaaaahhhh' moment. Then it makes you turn it upside down so you understand that the bottom screen was even trippier.

I assume the 'coffin ending' would stop before Junpei gets his brain jank transmission that tells him the code for the coffin right? Because that moment was like the first hint that they were doing some sort of 'connect all the paths' stuff.
 
Okay so apparently that was not actually Snake who died, which is really trippy but I think it reveals something given Ace's inability to recognize faces and how the Ninth Man's bracelet is apparently gone.

9+1+2=12, 1+2=3, aka the door "Snake" died in. This means one person could've killed him which is suggested by the bracelet missing; that person being Ace. idk a motive yet but the only way someone could goof something like killing a person up is Ace, seeing as he can't tell the difference between faces.

Also, let's assume June is left behind earlier.

1+4+7=12 = 1+2=3
3+5+8=7

This way (and probably in other ways), Door 3 could be entered, where "Snake" died, but because Ace forced them to leave him behind, they had to go through Doors 7 and 8 otherwise more people would be left behind and get ticked off at Junpei for brute-forcing Door 3.

And going back to the Knife ending, Clover went missing, and no one found her. We could assume she was still in the 1st class cabin during that ending, dead, as she is now, which would mean Ace could go through Door 9 on his own with Junpei's, Lotus', and Clover's braclets and escape because 4+8+5+1=18 = 1+8=9. You could even add the Ninth Man's bracelet to this and it would be 27, still allowing him to escape.

I really do think I'm right about this, but if the game decides to throw a curveball I'm gonna be peeved because I spent like an hour brainstorming this after I saw Clover dead and the 9 bracelet gone, and everything is pointing towards Ace being the bad guy, plus how he was the president of the company who took the children and knocked out Seven.

EDIT: ALSO as for how he did this because I'm almost convinced he's the culprit who killed Lotus, Clover, and Junpei (in the Knife ending), he must have acquired a knife somehow. iirc the ninth man pulled out a knife when he threatened Clover and the others, if that didn't get destroyed in the blast it's not out of the question for him to also take the potential knife since it's where his bracelet was left. If not then he might've taken the one from the Kitchen after escaping there because that also exists.

But even if that's right, where did Snake go?????
 
Maki Nishikino said:
Ahahah to be honest I don't remember what I was noticing early on except being super sceptical of Ace. tbh it was kind of like a gut feeling, he did some strange stuff in the axe ending and from there I just couldn't see him as someone 'good'. Snake being alive I only really figured after the second run since the coffin made noises and it could only really be him, once I got to the part where Santa talked about the missing kids I immediately thought Akane could have been in it but kind of forgot about that, until they brought it up again so the thing I wrote off as sloppy guesswork ended up being right.
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ah well lol it was interesting to read your guesswork anyway

reading icemario's stuff is just as frustrating lol

Maki Nishikino said:
June was great, idk who my favourite would be. I liked June, Seven and Clover a lot. Seeing the two screens and having both Junpei and crying kid Akane reflecting on the screens was like a real 'wooooooaaaaahhhh' moment. Then it makes you turn it upside down so you understand that the bottom screen was Akane doing the puzzle not Junpei.
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yeah it's da bess

also cool if that ZE fad ever gets revived i'm sure you'll have no problems with a theme. we only had zero, snake and santa D: D: D:
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I assume the 'coffin ending' would stop before Junpei gets his brain jank transmission that tells him the code for the coffin right? Because that moment was like the first hint that they were doing some sort of 'connect all the paths' stuff.
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yeah it's pretty much the YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION GO BACK TO START ending which is actually automatically unlocked if you grabbed the safe ending before trying to go for the true ending. it offers nothing new that the true ending doesn't already cover

fyi VLR does this a lot, but it's much easier to overcome because you can jump between timelines you've visited at a moments notice
 
Whoa okay so apparently Snake is a Nonary Game veteran, kinda funny because I think Clover's in the second game maybe based on that VLR Mafia game.

Zero supposedly wants to punish the Cradle lads (knocking my Ace = Zero theory out of the water although idk he might be someone), and considering he gave Snake those notes and stuff and how that was not actually Snake who died and how I think Snake might've had some interaction with them because he was there nine years ago which may have been on the same ship (or if I'm not misremembering the two sisters thing on the other sister last time) and they were kidnapping kids which Seven was investigating, I'm gonna assume the two of them were perhaps working together to play trix on Ace, although if Clover didn't even know then wow maybe that's not so true because she looked so dejected. ;-;

But where did Snake go? That's legit the biggest mystery here now, surely there's no quick escape routes or anything because Ace could maybe find one too, and escape which Zero clearly does not want.

I think I'm done speculating, I just want to nip this in the bud now.
 
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I think I'm done speculating, I just want to nip this in the bud now.
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go for it, watching you speculate like this is painful b/c i can't say anything D: D: D:
 
I think it's great. Just grab some popcorn and read what he comes up with. It's pretty interesting to be the one that's now like 'I know it and you don't huehuehe'.

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ah well lol it was interesting to read your guesswork anyway

reading icemario's stuff is just as frustrating lol
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Actually I wrote up a whole thing on how I thought Akane was Zero because she knew all about the planet signs and ice-9, then how I thought she really had no obvious connection to the kid case like everyone else just like Junpei but if Akane was Zero that would give her a very close connection to the case as well as explain why Junpei was there (cause she chose him). Then I saw the fourth ending and started writing something about Santa being Zero as the one we see is 'white santa' and Zero is 'black santa' and all kinds of silly stuff.

But I deleted it out of fear of being completely off haha, well I wasn't too far from it but my ideas were too vague to really pinpoint anything. I didn't want to shut down the game and sit there thinking for too long, I just wanted to play.
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yeah it's da bess

also cool if that ZE fad ever gets revived i'm sure you'll have no problems with a theme. we only had zero, snake and santa D: D: D:
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I'd do a ZE fad one day, preferably a while after I get to be Kyon. When does ZE3 come out? Maybe it could be like a pre-ze3 hype fad.

The only problem I would have is choosing between those three haha, tough choice really. I love Seven's shocked face. He looks so dorky. Also who was who, I think fanta was Santa? Probably because it rhymes.
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yeah it's pretty much the YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION GO BACK TO START ending which is actually automatically unlocked if you grabbed the safe ending before trying to go for the true ending. it offers nothing new that the true ending doesn't already cover

fyi VLR does this a lot, but it's much easier to overcome because you can jump between timelines you've visited at a moments notice
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Yeah I was going to ask about how VLR handles it's endings since I hear it has way more. The timeline jumping thing sounds pretty helpful but somehow I feel like I'll miss speeding through those first few puzzles and feeling like a genius heh. I really didn't mind since it was so quick.

I'll probably buy VLR tomorrow. I'm going to Melbourne so I might get the chance to go to a game store and see if they have any but otherwise it'll be ozgameshop which will end up arriving nearly two weeks from now on a Friday.
 
oh god that ending

When Junpei started calling out Ace reiterating mostly what I said I did not think it would take the turn it did, I legit forgot he could've taken the gun in that room, and then everything happened.

I'm disappointed I did not even question the source of the note, but to think it came from the captain quarters and Snake was in that coffin (which iirc had no airholes so I have no idea how he survived in there) and how he could just slip off his bracelet like that and take six bullets and still keep trucking and all of that only for June and Santa to disappear and it to end like that is just... wow, well played devs.

At the moment if Zero is anyone, I think it's either Santa or June, they both just disappeared and for the former, he knew who Ace was which might've been him setting up Ace's demise, although for the former, she just ghosted when she looked like she was dying and before Zero said he lost, plus I don't think Zero's sex was ever confirmed; it was only assumed, which also goes hand in hand with how the Ninth Man was actually referring to Ace because it could no longer be considered directed at him at all.

Also I hope I'm not the only one here who really gets Damon Gant vibes from Ace at this point? I mean, the real villain of the game (rather than Zero), the president/big cheese of *company*, old, pretends to be nice, the resemblance in both general appearance and personality is too strong.

I eagerly await how the true ending can top a monster like that, this game is getting so good now.
 
The reason you didn't beat me to the finish was because you are waiting for it you scrub. no this isn't a silly attempt at provoking you to go beat the game now. for real go do that though.
 
Maki Nishikino said:
provoking you to go beat the game now
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Well you essentially did that already by starting to play the game, making that post about one of the endings causing me to make a post saying I got that ending which prompted GBAToad to say "get the rest of them before crackin beats you", which put it all into motion.

It's almost amusing thinking about it.

tfw Alice is the mummy person maybe

Did not think that point of discussion would be returned to but that's neat.

Also that fake stomach still seriously looks like a nose to me now and I can't unsee it.

Obviously Ace would know what the injection could do to him, which is why he took it. The most logical conclusion is he is in the medical business, hence you could probably tie him to Cradle if you started suspecting him past that point, which is pretty cool.

Plus there's how he was apparently on this ship before most likely, which makes his "honourable act" of saving the other six from voting someone to stay behind just a ploy to build trust when he already knows he's not going to be left behind because he knows the layout of the ship.

Also wow I just realized how awkward the Door 1 group is, both of Junpei's companions kill him in the Axe ending and Knife ending respectively, though that makes me wonder; who did shoot Junpei in the Sub ending??? Ace, or was he really dead? June doesn't make as much sense but she's still possible, hopefully the True ending clears that up.

Anyway Junpei also catches out Ace, and Ace kills Clover in the Safe/Knife(?) ending(s), so upon replay this has an entirely different feel.
 
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